{"id":1029,"date":"2017-01-09T15:09:35","date_gmt":"2017-01-09T19:09:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/beemandave.com\/beemanblog\/?p=1029"},"modified":"2017-01-09T16:28:24","modified_gmt":"2017-01-09T20:28:24","slug":"sifting-through-the-ashes-part-seven-what-about-health-insurance","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/beemandave.com\/beemanblog\/blog\/2017\/01\/09\/sifting-through-the-ashes-part-seven-what-about-health-insurance\/","title":{"rendered":"Sifting Through The Ashes,  Part Seven &#8211; What ABOUT Health Insurance?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>Greetings and Salutations;<\/div>\n<div>\u00a0<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-1033\" src=\"https:\/\/beemandave.com\/beemanblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/ashes-part-seven-antiObamacare-sign-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/beemandave.com\/beemanblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/ashes-part-seven-antiObamacare-sign-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/beemandave.com\/beemanblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/ashes-part-seven-antiObamacare-sign-150x113.jpg 150w, https:\/\/beemandave.com\/beemanblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/ashes-part-seven-antiObamacare-sign.jpg 480w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Sigh&#8230;There is so much going on in the world that it is an unending resource for those of us that comment on society, \u00a0and the current tidal change in our Political world.<\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1032\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1032\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-1032 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/beemandave.com\/beemanblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/ashes-part-seven_BIO-Paul-Ryan-300x169.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" srcset=\"https:\/\/beemandave.com\/beemanblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/ashes-part-seven_BIO-Paul-Ryan-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/beemandave.com\/beemanblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/ashes-part-seven_BIO-Paul-Ryan-150x84.jpg 150w, https:\/\/beemandave.com\/beemanblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/ashes-part-seven_BIO-Paul-Ryan.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1032\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Paul Ryan<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Just for a minute, \u00a0 I want to look at a coming proposal, \u00a0put together by the Right-Wingers in Congress &#8211; Led by Paul Ryan &#8211; to delete the ACA from the face of American Law. \u00a0 I have discussed these healthcare insurance reforms elsewhere, \u00a0so will focus on what the proposed replacement for it is, \u00a0and list some of the reasons this proposal is well up there on the list of &#8220;Screw the 99%ers&#8221; legislation the Republicans are trying to push through. \u00a0In short, \u00a0the Ryan plan is to repeal the ACA, and replace it with a &#8220;Healthcare Savings Account&#8221;. \u00a0Now, \u00a0I have to say that this is a law that, if implemented WILL impact all but the richest folks in America. \u00a0 Here is an excellent explanation that is circulating on Social Media just at the moment:<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><b>&#8220;TRUMP-RYAN-MCCONNELL HEALTHCARE REPLACEMENT PLAN<\/b><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: left; padding-left: 30px;\">When Trump or McConnell or Paul Ryan say they want to replace the ACA with &#8220;Health Savings Accounts&#8221; (HSAs), they are also saying they want to replace Obamacare or Medicare or Medicaid so YOU will be paying for your healthcare.<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: left; padding-left: 30px;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: left; padding-left: 30px;\">That means YOU pay for chemotherapy&#8230; YOU pay for all surgeries and hospitalization&#8230; YOU pay for all your family&#8217;s doctor visits, urgent care, ER visits, and prescription drugs out-of-our-pocket.<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: left; padding-left: 30px;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: left; padding-left: 30px;\">A Health Savings Account is just a tax-free way for you to save up money to pay for your own medical bills. So if you are paying off college loans, or saving for a house down-payment, or simply living paycheck to paycheck, guess what &#8212; a Health Savings Account does you no good, because you have no discretionary funds to deposit into it. And even if you manage to save five grand or ten grand in an HSA, that could all get wiped out in one hospital visit for you or a family member. Then you are back to square zero again.<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: left; padding-left: 30px;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: left; padding-left: 30px;\">Even if you can supplement your HSA with affordable health insurance, you will be eating away at money that you should be investing for your retirement or your kids&#8217; college tuition. Only the top 3-5% of Americans can save enough for retirement, college AND their own out-of-pocket medical expenses. Therefore, the tax benefits of HSA&#8217;s only help those people.&#8221;<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: left;\"><\/div>\n<div>There are some, short-sighted folks, who hop all over this idea of an HSA, \u00a0as they believe in &#8220;Self-Reliance&#8221; \u00a0and &#8220;NOT enabling the lazy with benefits&#8221; \u00a0 It is gallows humor, \u00a0but I have to laugh when I hear this. \u00a0My usual response to the &#8220;get rid of the ACA&#8221; folks goes something like\u00a0 this:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>OK&#8230;Ryan wants to wipe out the entire law, and replace it with Healthcare Savings Accounts. Tell me&#8230;do you have enough cash ON HAND to deposit $100,000 in that HSA? If not, how are you going to deal with it when a week after this change happens, your wife and child are seriously injured in an automobile accident, and in hospital, racking up bills at a rate of $10,000 a day? Will you sell everything to help them? Will you say to yourself &#8216;screw it, I can find a new wife, and create a new kid with no effort, so pull the plug on them?<\/em><\/div>\n<div style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/div>\n<div>I have yet to get a straight answer to this question! \u00a0(Imagine that) \u00a0Bless their hearts, \u00a0the folks that support this are deluded at best, and malicious at worst. \u00a0As my question indicates, \u00a0 a vast percentage of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. \u00a0They do not have that kind of money to tuck away, and it would take them 20 years of sacrifice to get it. \u00a0Then, \u00a0there is that fact that this law does not remove the money in it from being taxed. \u00a0It only defers the tax, anticipating that by the time the money is withdrawn, \u00a0the tax rates will have dropped, \u00a0or the income will have dropped, \u00a0enough to overbalance the taxes due on this. \u00a0Right now? \u00a0If, for example, \u00a0I pull $10,000 out of a 401K to pay for a short hospital stay, \u00a0I will actually have to deduct $11,500 (at least) from the balance, \u00a0to deal with Penalties for early withdrawal, and taxes. \u00a0Well, \u00a0so, \u00a0the fact is that 99% of Americans will\u00a0 NOT have an HSA with $100,000 in it, not now, not in two years,\u00a0 not in 10 years.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Beyond this, \u00a0there is the fact that this will \u00a0remove the barriers that have kept the abusive behavior of the Health Insurance Industry at bay for several years. \u00a0This will, \u00a0inevitably, \u00a0lead to<\/div>\n<ul>\n<li>massive premium increases<\/li>\n<li>people unable to get insurance because of preexisting conditions<\/li>\n<li>people losing their policies after a claim<\/li>\n<li>the sale of policies that cover NOTHING and so are little more than an excuse for the Insurance Agency to suck cash from the subscriber&#8217;s pocket<\/li>\n<li>life-time caps on coverage (which are almost always low enough that a serious health issue will top them out,\u00a0 leaving the patient with the choice of dying, \u00a0or going bankrupt from their attempts to pay for needed coverage.<\/li>\n<li>\n<div>Another serious issue that the Republicans like to ignore, \u00a0or blow smoke over to conceal, \u00a0is the fact that repealing the ACA will, by ALL estimates, \u00a0cost America well over $1 TRILLION dollars in coming years, and likely destroy many jobs. \u00a0 There are plenty of studies that show this available with a simple, \u00a0Google search.<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>This will cause upwards of 20 MILLION Americans to lose their health insurance.<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div>In case anyone has forgotten, \u00a0it was only eight years ago that the above situation was not the exception, \u00a0but the normal mode of doing business that the Insurance Industry held to.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<p>This is not a guess, \u00a0this is not speculation. \u00a0 These are FACTS.<\/p>\n<div>\n<div>Now, \u00a0I am all for &#8220;Self-Reliance&#8221;, \u00a0however, \u00a0this is a bit delusional an attitude to hold in today&#8217;s world. \u00a0We, \u00a0in America, \u00a0have a society based on Democratic Socialism. \u00a0 There are a vast collection of services and support that comes from decisions we, as Citizens, have made about providing them. \u00a0 For example:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<ul>\n<li>Police Protection &#8211; How many of us could afford hiring a subscription to a private security service that we could call when disaster happens to us at home. \u00a0 Then, \u00a0there is the issue of being on the road, \u00a0and getting into an accident. Even if we are not at fault, \u00a0HOW is that mess going to be dealt with? \u00a0Finally, \u00a0there is the security issue itself. \u00a0Will an employee of a private company be as willing to run TOWARDS danger and possible death? Mercenaries, \u00a0while a bit strange from my point of view, \u00a0may be good at what they do, \u00a0but, when push comes to shove a vast majority of them will say &#8220;I preserve ME, \u00a0first&#8230;THEN the other guy&#8221;.<\/li>\n<li>Fire Protection &#8211; We, in America are blessed with a huge population of men and women who, like police, \u00a0run TOWARDS danger instead of away from it. \u00a0They, \u00a0with quiet courage, \u00a0ride their trucks into the unknown, \u00a0taking on tasks ranging from battling wildfires eating thousands of acres and likely to turn and eat them at any moment, \u00a0to rescuing a companion animal from a tree, \u00a0or stream, or culvert where they have gotten stuck. \u00a0 They do this with grace and a caring attitude, \u00a0and put their own lives second in many of these situations.<\/li>\n<li>Infrastructure Creation and Repair &#8211; There is a road running by your house. \u00a0There are street lights that illuminate the road, \u00a0making it safer to drive, \u00a0there are bridges that cross impassable barriers, and a thousand other things that are the foundation of our life here in America. \u00a0The men and women who work on these tasks are, in general, \u00a0dedicated, hard workers who want to do the job as well as they can, \u00a0both for you, \u00a0a stranger they may never have met, \u00a0and for their families who likely drive on the roads and bridges they support and are directly affected by how well the structures are maintained. \u00a0 Would YOU want to be &#8220;Self Reliant&#8221; and either pay a crew to keep the road along your property paved, \u00a0or take care of the task yourself? \u00a0 What if a downed tree damages the power lines to your house? \u00a0Going to fix THAT on your own? \u00a0 This, by the by, \u00a0includes clean water supplies and in some cases, \u00a0trash and waste disposal. \u00a0 Do you want to have to dig a septic system and maintain it? \u00a0Do YOU want to have to make frequent runs to a commercial trash collector station, where you would likely have to pay a fee for EVERY bag of trash you put in the system?<\/li>\n<li>Public Education &#8211; We, as a society, \u00a0use tax revenue to support a public school system that is free for all. \u00a0This free education extends through High School. \u00a0 Now, \u00a0other countries are rather different about that. \u00a0Uganda, for example, \u00a0has no publicly funded High School system &#8211; which is far too common in the area. \u00a0 So&#8230;for a child to go to High School \u00a0requires a significant payment from the parents. \u00a0The end result? \u00a0A population that has a small proportion of its kids getting any education beyond elementary school. \u00a0 Look around at today&#8217;s society for a second &#8211; I will wait &#8211; \u00a0 Ok&#8230;can you really say that someone with less than a High School education can really be successful in dealing with the complexities of this world? \u00a0Or, \u00a0for that matter, \u00a0look for any opportunity for work that is past the dishwasher\/line cook \u00a0level? \u00a0 Say you had three kids&#8230;one boy, two girls. \u00a0How much would YOU pay to ensure that they each would make it out of High School? \u00a0 $5000\/year for 4 years? \u00a0That is a real possibility.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>These are but four of the many &#8220;Socialist&#8221; programs the United States supports and enjoys. \u00a0 To me &#8220;Self-Reliance&#8221; \u00a0means doing what I can, \u00a0but making sure that this support system is kept in good shape to take the burden of things that I prefer not to have to deal with \u00a0or that I can, \u00a0by joining a group where we each contribute a little bit, \u00a0we can get great rewards back. \u00a0 To touch back on Politics for a moment, \u00a0 Bernie Sanders ran a very successful campaign in the lead up to the 2016 Presidential election, \u00a0paid for by millions of people who contributed $27 each. \u00a0 He may not have won (alas), \u00a0but, he made some big changes to the platforms of the parties, \u00a0and brought some serious issues to the attention of the American Voter.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>As for the &#8220;enabling&#8221; comment..a vast majority of the people supporting this repeal of the ACA claim to be &#8220;Good Christians&#8221;. \u00a0I missed the book of Christ&#8217;s teachings where He said &#8220;Ah, \u00a0forget it&#8230;I was just joshing with you. \u00a0Screw the poor and disadvantaged. \u00a0 Let them starve&#8230; \u00a0Greed is GOOD!&#8221; \u00a0 Having studied and meditated on the teachings in the Bible for 50+ years now, \u00a0I would be interested to hear where anyone has found comments that support the view that the disadvantaged should be kicked to one side while we enrich ourselves.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Be sure to contact your Congressional Representatives if you think this change is a bad idea &#8211; \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.govtrack.us\/congress\/members\">Here is a good tool to track down the contact pages of your Senators and Representatives: <\/a><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>These days, \u00a0I have created and keep open three tabs on the browsers I use, \u00a0with one Representative&#8217;s email page in each. \u00a0It takes about five minutes to hit all three tabs and send a short, \u00a0clear, polite message expressing your opposition to this (or other) issues. \u00a0 It is worth the time and anyone that tries to tell you it is not, is lying to you, because they know that our voices ARE important, and ARE heard by our Representatives. \u00a0 They always have an agenda that depends on us, the voters and Citizens of America, \u00a0NOT taking that time to communicate with our government.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Be Strong..be Smart&#8230;Make your voice heard. \u00a0 \u00a0Also, \u00a0of course, \u00a0if your Representative fails to support causes you find important..make an effort to vote in EVERY Election, \u00a0vote them out of office and replace them with Representatives that actually DO Represent you. \u00a0 If possible, \u00a0be a bit of an activist. \u00a0Find out if your neighbors vote, \u00a0and if they have excuses, \u00a0politely discuss it with them, and offer to get them to the polls on Election day. \u00a0 Contribute to your candidate &#8211; both time and money are useful and appreciated. \u00a0 Finally, \u00a0stand up for what you believe in on Social Media. \u00a0We should not call names and engage in playground fights&#8230;but, \u00a0state the truth and let it stand on its own.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>11 days to go.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>God Help Us All<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Bee Man Dave<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<p>=-=-=-=-=<br \/>\n<i>Powered by <b><a href=\"http:\/\/blogilo.gnufolks.org\/\">Blogilo<\/a><\/b><\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Greetings and Salutations; \u00a0 Sigh&#8230;There is so much going on in the world that it is an unending resource for&#8230; <a class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/beemandave.com\/beemanblog\/blog\/2017\/01\/09\/sifting-through-the-ashes-part-seven-what-about-health-insurance\/\">Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crdt_document":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[20,22,6,10,23,12,13,17],"tags":[451,607,606,445],"class_list":["post-1029","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-advances-in-healthcare","category-ethics","category-general","category-nuttiness","category-political-rants","category-politics-2","category-questionable-decisions","category-snake-oil","tag-aca","tag-hsa","tag-repeal","tag-right-wingers"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/beemandave.com\/beemanblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1029","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/beemandave.com\/beemanblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/beemandave.com\/beemanblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/beemandave.com\/beemanblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/beemandave.com\/beemanblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1029"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/beemandave.com\/beemanblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1029\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1053,"href":"https:\/\/beemandave.com\/beemanblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1029\/revisions\/1053"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/beemandave.com\/beemanblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1029"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/beemandave.com\/beemanblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1029"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/beemandave.com\/beemanblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1029"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}