Some Thoughts On Father’s Day

Greetings and Salutations;


I thought I would take a moment today,  since it is Father’s Day, to talk about something that is not a political rant or a discussion of bees and their world.


From Left: Unknown Fingertip, Dr. J. O. Mundt, Earl Mundt


     My Father,  John  Orvin Mundt,  had a pretty amazing life.   He was born in Wisconsin,    and grew up on a farm,  where he certainly learned the necessity for,  and the value of,  hard work!  This ensured that he would keep a large garden planted with enough produce to feed three families going every year to the day he died.  This was a family affair, too,  as not only the kids  got to be yard slaves taking care of weeding and picking the produce,  but, even Mom was pulled into it.  On the positive side,  she was the one that ensured that we always had a goodly area of the garden covered in flowers (that we could enjoy,  but did not have to pick)  However, his “Safe Place”  and Zen Temple was the three, 200+  foot rows of Raspberry plants that he lovingly cared for around the year.  He would come in from work in the late Summer and through the Fall,  and work his way slowly through the tangle of canes,  trimming them,  removing the stubs of old canes,  weeding,  and carefully squirting a drop of shellac onto each cut end to keep the Cane Borer beetles from burrowing down the soft centers of the plants,  laying eggs and hurting the plants.


     As a young man, he survived the Great Depression,  although he nearly starved to death during it,  and, it left some scars that never did heal.   Because of that experience in his life,  he was  not willing to let a single morsel of food go to waste.   We had to clean our plates of every bite.   When we processed the produce from the garden,  we had to get every last sliver of tomato, or kernel of corn  into the jars.   We pressure-canned everything, so it would stay good for a long time.  Now,  with up to four kids and two adults in the house,  we made it through the rest of the year on those jars of canned produce.


     When he was a boy, in Wisconsin,  he felt he was not welcomed at Church.  As a poor farm boy,  he did not have nice clothes to wear.  His worn, but, clean,  coveralls and shirts were looked down upon by the other members.  However,  in spite of that,  he persisted in the teachings of the Lutheran Church,  and, while he struggled at times with the conflict between Dogma  and reality,  he did,  I believe,  gain much spiritual growth from the Church and its teachings.  He, like all of us had his failings,  but,  as long as I knew him he always exhibited the best of Christ’s Message…He loved and cared for all,  and had no prejudices against other people because of cultural, sexual, or racial differences.  He also did his best to pass on those attitudes to his children,  and, I have to say,   looking at my brother and sisters,  I believe that he did a far better job of that than he believed he had done.


     He was a quiet man,  who was prone to NOT talk about himself to any extent.   Was it because he still had painful wounds to his soul that he did not want to reveal?   Was it because he was more interested in others than himself?   I believe that both of these are true,  but that the latter came to be the dominant factor in his life.  Lord Knows,  he had some wounds too!   Decades after his death,  after many conversations with my siblings,  and comparing notes,  I have come to the conclusion that my father either WAS one of the German-Americans that were interned during World War 2,  or he was very close to those that were swept up in that debacle,  and it rattled his world.   Perhaps the worst part of this,  is that Dad  was always kind of in awe of a country where a poverty stricken farm boy from rural Wisconsin  could get access to such great support and educational resources at little or no cost.   These allowed him to continue his education to become a world-renowned Microbiologist,  speaking many languages and reading more,  with many discoveries in the field to his name, and, being able to influence the life Journey of many, many students.


     His work at the University of Tennessee,  with the students,  was another example of his caring for others.   He made it a point to learn as much as possible about the students he was advising,  and honestly evaluate their prospects in the field.   Being German Lutheran,  he was quite willing to tell a student that they had no aptitude for the work.   However, unlike many advisers,  he would go on to talk with them about their strengths, and to suggest alternative degrees that they ought pursue.  MOST of the students he had to do this with came to appreciate him quite a bit…because he had been absolutely right,  and they ended up in a degree program that fit them far better and gave them much more happiness and success.   Some students ignored his advice, and pushed on.  I have, over the years,  run across a few of these, and a number of times,  they had gotten a degree in Microbiology,  and then had ended up in a career change to something that had nothing to do with the topic.   Dad was not perfect…he did make mistakes and some of those students he had advised to bail out,  attacked the subject with greater determination than ever,  and successfully got their degree.   They may well have found a niche in the broad field that really did fit them well, too.


     I could go on at great length about the successes and failures of my Father,  and how he taught me much from both of them.   Perhaps, though,  that is more for a different post.  I wanted to finish off by saying that we had a rough relationship for a lot of my life.  My brother and sisters were FAR more successful in the areas that he held important.   I, though was that little, 9 year old, third child who lost his tools all the time.   HOWEVER,  perhaps the best memory I have, and at least the one I am proudest of,  is that, several years before his death,  our relationship was shaken up and re-formed into a friendship between two adults. The somewhat shocking moment of realization I had that this change had happened was one weekend when he asked me if I would come and speak to his lion’s Club meeting about the world of computers and programming – focusing on it as a career.   I went in,  and did about 45 minutes extemporaneously,  with some props  I had printed off,  and (which will surprise those that know me) kept it relatively short.   Afterward,  as we were driving home, Dad observed that it had been quite a good presentation,  and that I had not used any notes…  He seemed rather impressed that I had become a knowledgeable enough person,  and was well spoken enough to be able to do that.   He rarely exhibited surprise,  but he did at that…


     The fact that we became adults, and friends that could speak honestly with each other is both one of the most touching, and biggest honors in my life.   He died years ago, yet,   for some reason, I feel him with me  today,  I am sad that he is not here and I cannot show him my house, and help him with his Raspberries a bit.
Thanks,  Dad.

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Bees….Nature’s Artists!

Greetings and Salutations;
Bees are interesting creatures.   They sometimes do amazing things,  all driven by nothing but instance.   We, who are their Guardians,   are, at times,  amazed by what they do.   For example…I am sure y’all have seen the classic pictures of frames of bees and honey from a Langstroth hive.   It looks amusingly neat,  with row after row of comb,  filled with honey, pollen and brood   lined up on the supporting frames.   Even a wild swarm will,  when it takes residence in a safe cave,  will build comb hanging down from the ceiling in more or less parallel sheets.   However,  this is not always the case.   Sometimes,  if a hive is poorly maintained,   or the cave is too irregular for those neat walls of comb,  then,  the bees will create what is called “Wild Comb”.   They will build a twisting sheet of comb  where ever they can,  in order to make the cells necessary for storage and reproduction.   Sometimes,  these efforts create lovely, almost sculpted, sheets of comb.   Recently,  I ran across a picture of one of these examples of wild comb on the Net,  and thought I would pass it along  here in the blog.
This is worthy,  I think,  of being mounted on a stand,  and admired as an art piece  just as the work of Matisse,  or some other sculptors….
In these days of Darkness…it is a good thing to find even a small example of beauty and glowing life.
God Help Us All.
Bee Man Dave

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Remember Luther?

Greetings and Salutations;

     Here is something completely different    that I ran across today and I wanted to share it as it struck a chord in me.   One of my good friends shared this on Face Book,   and so I am going to share it with y’all.    It is worth the read,  as “Peter” brings up some very good points.

An Open Letter to Rev. Franklin Graham from a “Small Church” Pastor


Dear Frank

Can I call you Frank? This is just pastor to pastor. Feel free to call me Peter. Anyway, I have to say I was flattered when I learned that your Decision America Tour took a detour off the beaten path to call upon us “small community churches.” We are nothing if not small. We seat 30-40 on a good Sunday. And we are a century old fixture of our small community. Most often we are overlooked and overshadowed by mega-churches and politically influential religious voices like your own. We don’t hold a candle to an auditorium filled with the music of a one hundred voice choir led by professional musicians. We probably will never be recognized in any nationally syndicated media. After all, we don’t do anything really “newsworthy.” We just preach the good news of Jesus Christ; love one another the best we can (which sometimes isn’t very well); feed the hungry that come to our doors; care for the sick; comfort the dying; and bury the dead. So thanks for thinking of us. Rest assured, we are ready to respond to your calls to prayer and action.

I have to say, though, that I was a little confused by your summons. Of all the things that worry me, loss of religious freedom for Christians in America isn’t one of them. I can’t say I have ever experienced anything in this country that could reasonably be called a restriction on my religious liberty, much less persecution.  When you started talking about attacks on Christianity, I thought you might have been referring to the racially motivated slaying of pastors and lay people at Mother Emmanuel church in Charlotte some time back. Or I figured you were referring to the slaughter of Coptic Christians in Egypt this past Palm Sunday. That’s what I call persecution. But having to pay a judgment for refusing to bake a cake for a same sex couple in violation of the law against discrimination? This you call persecution? There’s a letter in the Bible, written by the Apostle Peter (ever heard of him?). He’s an expert on persecution, having been on the receiving end of it more than once. He says you don’t get divine kudos from suffering the consequences of breaking the law-even if you are a Christian. Moreover, there is a Christian fellow named Paul (aka Saul) who wrote a letter to a church in Rome nearly two thousand years ago. He said that if your enemy is hungry you should feed him (that’s in the Bible too). So wouldn’t it have been the Christian way to have baked a cake for the same sex couple in your example, even if you deem them enemies (another assertion I don’t quite understand)? I’m confused.

But in any event, Frank, let’s get over this persecution complex. Stop with the drama already! You are not under attack just because you have to follow the rules like everyone else. Look, I understand the owners of this establishment you mention in your speech don’t approve of gay and lesbian people getting married. They don’t have to approve of them. But if they are going to do business in this country, they have to follow the law against discrimination-just like the rest of us. If you don’t like the rules, don’t join the game. It’s that simple. Furthermore, I don’t understand why baking a cake for people whose conduct you find personally offensive is such a big deal. Heck, Frank, if all of us small church pastors refused to bury everyone whose conduct we didn’t approve of, the country would be ten feet deep in corpses!

I am struggling, too, with your claim that Donald Trump is a champion (albeit an unlikely one) for religious freedom. What freedoms are we talking about here, Frank? The freedom to lie with impunity? The freedom to grab young girls by the genitals? The freedom to discriminate against people of color in the sale and rental of real estate? The freedom to refer to women as “dogs,” “fat pigs,” and “ugly”? The freedom to call your opponents “idiots,” “losers,” “liars” and “frauds”? The freedom to slander people with accusations of criminal conduct based on absolutely no evidence? By my count, the above violate at least four of the Ten Commandments (you will find those in the books of Exodus and Deuteronomy-both in the Bible). If Donald Trump is the champion of American Christianity, God save it from its enemies!

All kidding aside, you might be right about God putting Donald Trump in the White House-though your reasons for so believing are probably different from what I might conjecture. Still, how do you know that? Where did you get this info? I have to hand it to you, Frank, you sure do have the connections. As I am sure you know, God does not consult with us small church pastors on weighty issues of that kind. So it was kind of you to leak this classified intelligence to all of us who are evidently a good deal further away from the divine pipeline. So let me see if I have this figured out correctly: God doesn’t give a flying fruitcake if we deprive twenty-million people, most of them poor, of access to health care. Nor is God particularly concerned about how men treat women in the workplace, how people of color are treated in the real estate market, how the hungry and homeless are cared for (or not), but God flips out if we bake a cake for a same sex couple to celebrate their wedding? I have to be honest with you, Frank. I’m just not seeing it. Not in the Bible, not in the realm of rational common sense.

Here’s the thing, Frank. At the last judgment, Jesus doesn’t ask anyone about who they voted for, how many times they have been divorced, what their sexual history or orientation is or for whom they did or did not bake wedding cakes. His sole concern is for how we treated the hungry, the thirsty, the naked, the imprisoned, those deemed “least” among us. No, I didn’t get that from any private chat with God. We small church pastors have to rely on the Bible for our intel. I got this stuff from the Gospel of Matthew, 25th Chapter to be precise. As I said, that, too, is in the Bible. (It’s a great book, Frank. You should read it sometime.)

You know, Frank, I would like to think that we are brothers. I would like to believe that we are on the same side. I would like to believe that, beneath our differences, we worship the same God and follow the same Savior. But quite honestly, I don’t recognize the Jesus I learned from my parents, my Sunday School teachers, my pastors or my years of study and reflection on the Bible in your angry, fearful rhetoric. Yes, I will answer your call for prayer. But I will be praying for the real victims of persecution-the victims of racial discrimination, sexual violence and bullying. I will answer your call to action. But I will be acting to establish health care as a right for all people; making the college campus and the workplace spaces where women and girls need not fear being called “pigs,” “dogs” or “ugly” nor will they need to fear rich, white celebrity males who feel entitled to grab them by the genitals. I will respond to your call for action by working for a society in which no one needs to worry about where she will sleep at night or where the next meal is coming from. You want prayer? You want action? You’ve got it.

Well, thanks again, Frank, for thinking about us small church folk. I appreciate your concern about our being persecuted and under attack. But don’t worry about us. We don’t have your money, your access to the halls of power or your seeming direct connection to the Almighty. But we have the scriptures, we have prayer, and we are learning every day what it means to love God with all our hearts, souls, minds and strength and to love our neighbors as ourselves. That’s all we need. You can keep your champion in the White House, thanks just the same.

Christ’s servant and yours,


I have,  for years,  disliked Franklin Graham,  as he has lost the path that his father,  Billy,  trod with such grace.   He has become corrupted by power and greed,  and his messages every day show this.   It is kind of sad,  both for him, and for the people influenced by his message.   They are on a Dark Path,  that can lead nowhere good.


By the by,  this post is from a Blog Site called the Trinity Portico.   Pastor Peter Olsen, the author,  has  a lot of very thoughtful articles on it.  It is DEFINITELY  worth a look.


God Help Us All

Bee Man Dave.


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Hillary Clinton Returns!

Hillary Clinton has finally emerged into the world again.   She had an interesting interview the other day,  where she spoke openly about the 2016 election,  and discussed the issues and problems that caused the donald to steal the Oval Office away from her.   She acknowledged the fact that she made mistakes in the campaign,  which hurt her chances,   but,  she also pointed out that the Comey announcement a week before the election that the FBI was re-opening the email investigation,  and the  massive push on social media of negative stories (many of which were unfounded lies)  probably hurt her more than anything.    I will say that I do agree with her on these points.   I would add to them the fact that the Main Stream Media forgot that it was supposed to be objective and spent entirely too much time focused on the trump train wreck.  While  HRC was out  talking with people in small town halls that had a lot of respectful dialogue,  and working to create the best,  most inclusive platform she could,  the cameras were focused on an empty stage in a packed auditorium,  while everyone waited for the donald to show up and spread his inflammatory messages around like shit in  an animal hoarder’s house. I am sure that,  had the media spent more time reporting on the quiet,  respectful discussions that Hillary (or Bernie) were having,   things might have come out differently.   However, alas,  as they say in the Newspaper Industry – “If it bleeds,  it leads”.   Blood and gore ALWAYS get the front page…as they sell the newspapers or, today,  get clicks into the website.




The really sad thing about her loss of the race is that she likely would have been a GREAT President.   When she was  in Congress,  she was well liked,  and dealt with both sides to move things forwards.  She was KNOWN for the fact that she would show up at hearings and such with an armload of data, all of which she had studied and knew inside and out.   She was, indeed,  a Policy Wonk (in the best possible way).   She came into the race with decades of  experience and knowledge of the ins and outs of dealing with and negotiating with,  people on the domestic and international scene.   She is known as a tough negotiator too,  which allowed her to push compromise where the two sides were at logger-heads.   Her work as Secretary of State had deepened her pool of understanding of the world situation. This,  by the by, is one reason why Putin worked so hard to the the donald elected.   He was terribly worried that she would take the Presidency,  and he knew he could not out-negotiate her!



     For me,  the real problem that kept her out of the Oval Office is that the American public are hypocrites,   not allowing their candidates to have mistakes or changes in stance,  and yet ignoring the huge list of their own screw-ups.    Add to that the misogyny of the voting public,  the meddling in the election by outside forces,  and the (possibly Unconstitutional) laws the states have passed forcing the Electoral College to a “Winner take all” rule…and it is little surprise  the  Republicans  were able to take the office…in spite of the results of the vote by ACTUAL CITIZENS!   Remember that the donald  only took the swing states by 75,000 votes or so – out of 63 MILLION cast,  so,  I suspect that if the Electors had not been “bound” by the “Winner take all” rule,   HRC would have gotten the majority of votes needed to take the Presidency.




     As for the Bernie supporters who still cling to the idea that if HE had been the candidate,  he would have won…I hope that gives you some comfort at night.  I disagree that he would have been an easy victory.   The Republicans had a HUGE file of dirt on him that goes back to his college days,  and would have used it with the same,  overblown rhetoric  that was used against HRC.   He would have been torn to shreds  by the tsunami of agenda-driven spin and lies from Russia.  Yes,  it is true that there are some Emails indicating that Wasserman-Schultz preferred HRC over Bernie.   Yet there STILL is no evidence that any of the suggested strategies were implemented.   In my own case,  I saw about as many HRC ads from PACs as I did Bernie ads.  It may be that many in the Democratic party looked upon Bernie with a questionable attitude because he has NEVER been a  Democrat.   He is and always will be an Independent,  Democratic Socialist.   Frankly,  that is a good thing,  and in  a way,  I wish that there were more like him in the Congress.   However,  his hooking his wagon to the Democratic Party was an attempt to hook into the pool of Democratic Voters  and so take the office.   That did not work as well as he would have liked…since several MILLION voters in the Primary voted for HRC over him.   I was not one of those.  I DID vote for Bernie in the Primary  for a variety of reasons.   For me,  it almost came down to a coin toss, though.   I looked at the two of them and was amazed that our Party had put forth TWO excellent and very qualified candidates.   That is why I DID vote for HRC in the General Election.



I agree that the Democratic Party needs to buckle down and start working together to be a force such as the Republicans.    People of good will can disagree over issues…but,  when push comes to shove,   we as progressives,  need to be able to compromise,  and to get behind ONE Candidate.   We must NOT be so self-centered that we pout about our favorite Candidate  not being chosen,  and either refuse to vote,  or write in his name,  or vote for a third party option that is worse than the Republican alternative.   Bite the bullet…work to change the Party…but without powerful representation,   we, and our goals as Citizens,  are irrelevant to the Republicans.   Look at what Mitch McConnell said after the donald’s victory.   He said “Winners get to make the rules.  Losers get to go home”.  That,  folks, is the draconian attitude of most Republicans.  They will dismiss our Liberal opinions and do their best to ride rough-shod over anything “Liberal” in the governmental and legal structure of the country.   Look at what they are doing now!   They are working as hard as they can to wipe out not only the legacy that President Obama left,  but, to roll back our society to where it was in the 1800s.   The Republicans of today seem to believe that the Television shows “Leave it to Beaver” and “The Andy Griffith Show”  are not situation comedies,  but, rather are documentaries of a lost way of life!   We,  as a group,  cannot wait for the Republicans to destroy themselves.  They are  perfectly happy to burn down the house with ALL of us locked in the living room.   We must look ahead…be sure to VOTE in the coming elections;  and look to the younger generation of Democrats to rise up and move us forward again.



God Help Us All



Bee Man Dave.


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“The Other” – What Does This Mean?

Greetings and Salutations;
I recently wrote a short entry on the works of Ayn Rand, the philosophy of Objectivism that she created,  and, how this philosophy is the tap root that feeds the attitudes and actions of the  Republican Party.   For the leaders of the Party to succeed, they must ensure that their followers will be motivated to support the Party without question.   To achieve this goal,  the leaders of the Party  have worked very hard at keeping the followers of the Party  so fearful and distracted that,  even if they have the intellectual skills to look at the Party’s actions and words,  they remain distracted by the shiny things, smoke and mirrors  waved in front of them.   This ensures that the followers will not actually look at what the leaders are doing; make rational decisions about whether they support these actions; or understand how those actions will affect them, personally.  Rather,  they buy into the Party Line, and  vote for the Party no matter what arguments against such a vote are presented to them or evidence showing this is a bad idea is available..


My first topic in this article is “Tribalism.”  For as long as there has been life on the Earth,  related or similar creatures have  clustered together in exclusive groups.  This is true for almost every species from ants to humans.  There are benefits to this,  including better  protection against the dangers of the world,  an increased probability of finding and acquiring food,  and (once we  to the stages of individual, sexual reproduction)  finding a mate to perpetuate the group.  In the lower animals,  we call it herding,  being part of a pack, and similar terms.    When we reach the developmental level of the Human Animal,  we call it “Tribalism”     This grouping of people into tribes  is typically so deeply rooted in our instincts that it is usually automatic, and  invisible to us.   This happens in spite of the evidence available that shows that such exclusive grouping is NOT the best way of dealing with the world.    Throughout history, beginning with the earliest Hominids appearing on Earth,   groups  of people have gathered together and formed a Tribal Group,  for the above mentioned reasons.  A  MAJOR objective of the tribe is its own protection against attack and destructive violence (This instinctive need to protect the tribe was one of the roots of the appearance of “The Other”,  and often shows up in today’s world as an almost insane obsession with spending huge sums of money  on enlarging the Military.   More on this later).

“The Other”

Now,  let us look at the concept of “The Other“.  This concept is strongly rooted in “Tribalism” and,   is a basic tool used in  philosophical  and sociological schools which examine the broad range of ways that we,  as humans,  look upon and interact with other humans.  “The Other”  has a large  influence on our building of  a self-Image.    As we mature, everyone builds a self-image  that defines us to ourselves and to the world.   Much of that self-image is generated,  and re-enforced,  by a comparison with someone else –  “The Other”.     Early on in our path to maturity,  this creation and feeding of the Self-Image is powered by our demonstrating how they are less than we are…and thereby, building ourselves up.   We all do it to some extent:
  • My dress is a LOT more elegant and well cut than hers is (So I have better taste and fashion sense)
  • I  am the champion Quarterback on the Team (so the other Quarterbacks were losers)
  • I have been to College and have a Master’s Degree in English and a Doctorate in Astronomy (so this  guy working as a stock boy in Walmart must be an idiot);
  • I own the company and make a ton of money so I am much better than the losers that work for me
 Hopefully,  as we mature,  we disconnect our self-worth from how we compare to others,  and,  grow it
  1. by traveling and continuing to explore new areas of knowledge,  so as to expand our horizons
  2. by interacting with a more diverse group of people
  3. seeking  out new experiences
  4. adding to or increasing our skill set
  5. by self-study and understanding we achieve greater self-awareness.
On this,  more positive path,  we cease to look at “The Other”  and say “I am so much better than that loser”.   Alas, none of us achieve this goal to perfection,  but with luck, work, and an increased understanding of ourselves we can move towards it.
In the less developed members of  humanity,   “The Other” is looked upon with suspicion, and fear.   Since the survival of the The Tribe depended on its ability to gather sufficient food,  find a protected environment,  and reproduce safely,   any stranger that showed up was viewed with suspicion.  They were “The Other” – an unknown part of reality and the tribe would not have any idea if the stranger was here on a peaceful mission,  or was looking to take any, or all of their three parts of survival by force.   Today,  alas,  these same,  quite primitive instincts remain in place, and, too often, control our actions.  “Otherness” (as discussed Here ) takes many forms. The Other may be someone who is of…
  • a different race (White vs. non-White),
  • a different nationality (Anglo Saxon vs. Italian),
  • a different religion (Protestant vs. Catholic or Christian vs. Jew),
  • a different social class (aristocrat vs. serf),
  • a different political ideology (capitalism vs. communism),
  • a different sexual orientation (heterosexual vs. homosexual),
  • a different origin (native born vs. immigrant).
The primal and instinctive fears we still harbor within us  can be inflamed by invoking any of these “Othering”  factors.  Then,  the resulting emotions can be used to motivate followers to action,  and blind them to the results of those actions.   Let me take a moment to give some concrete examples from the current political world.
  1. During the campaign,  the donald undercut his opponents in the race to the Primary Election   by emphasizing their differences,  and by claiming that they were “Low Energy”, stupid,  or “Flip-Floppers” –  implying that his Republican opponents were old,  feeble, or untrustworthing,  and so unable to deal with the pressures of the Presidency.   For his one Female opponent,  he derided her for her appearance – saying with contempt that she was so ugly she could NOT possibly be considered to be presidential material.
  2. During the race to the General Election,   he exaggerated Sec. Clinton’s state of health, implying she was about to keel over dead at any moment;  He pushed the misogynistic view that it was impossible for a woman to be President;   He and his campaign staff would inflame the audience members at rallies to chant “Lock Her Up”,  in spite of the fact that after 40 years of investigations by his own party,  NO criminal acts had been uncovered.
  3. During the Campaign,  the donald said, over and over again,  that the ACA was failing,  was likely to disintegrate in a year or less,  and was a total failure.   He said  HIS plan was to cover all Americans with a better plan, and make Premiums go down quite a bit.  He also NEVER used the act’s real name –  The ACA – Rather he continually called it “ObamaCare.”  to appeal to the latent racism in the hearts of his followers.   This claim of his was, of course  a lie,  but by repeating it many times and being careful to avoid any questions on exactly HOW “his GREAT Plan”  was supposed to make these changes to the Health Insurance situation,  he distracted many Americans who were unhappy that their Premiums HAD gone up, and by connecting the ACA with “The Other”  of President Obama,   got their votes.
  4. During the campaign,  the donald KEPT pushing the theme of “Radical Islamic Terrorists” flooding into the country.  This, in spite of the fact that almost EVERY terrorist attack in America since the events of 2001/09/11  have been done by citizens of the country who have been radicalized by the war that George W. Bush dropped us into shortly thereafter,  or have nothing to do with Islam or the Middle East at all – being perpetuated by White Supremacists against people of color,  and the like.
  5. Throughout the campaign,   the Republicans in general,  and the donald in specific,  characterized the news media as “The Other”   There were unsubstantiated claims that they were lying about him.    He claimed that the responsible and ethical journalists were creating “Fake News” about him.   He even went so far as claim such falsehoods as this:
  6. “A few days ago I called the fake news the enemy of the people, and they are — they are the enemy of the people,” Trump told the annual Conservative Political Action Conference  While praising some reporters as honest, and pledging fealty to the First Amendment, Trump claimed that “the fake news media doesn’t tell the truth.” He said reporters should not be allowed to use anonymous sources, and “we’re going to do something about it.”  These comments and many more like them over the past couple of years,  are an obvious attempt to make the Press into “The Other” –  A danger to America,  and to destroy their legitimate role in society as a watch dog of the government.

The Concept of The Other permeates other parts of society too.  The Black Lives Matter movement has been vilified since its beginnings with a variety of unsupported claims.   It was created when the institutional racism which has been growing in America for the past few decades reached a point that it appeared to the people of color in our society that it was open hunting season on them.   Having tried petitions and filing complaints about blatant racism exhibited by the government on all levels from the leaders down to the LEOs who seem to be the strike forces for that racism,  and had NO positive results from them,  people of color have taken to more energetic activism.   For this,  they have been peppered with claims of being Vandals whose only goal is to destroy businesses and loot them (in spite of the proven fact that only a tiny percentage of outside agitators in the crowds were doing this,  and a huge majority of the protestors were peaceably exercising their First Amendment Rights).   They are accused of raising a war against Whites or cops, in spite of the fact that they  NEVER say “Black Lives Matter More than Other Lives”.  They are  threatened and arrested when filming examples of police abuse of unarmed civilians,  in spite of the fact they are doing nothing wrong and are not interfering with the events.   They are called “Thugs”  and “Animals”  to the extent that many White folks automatically lock their doors when a person of color approaches their car.    The fact is that a vast majority of people of color are no different from you or me.   They are people of good will, who worry about their children, and try to teach them good values.  They are trying to do the best job at work they can,  because they take pride in doing a good job.


Yet…they are changed into the “Boogie Man” because the Republicans need an enemy  to focus the emotions of their followers on.   Look at the picture of the Black society in America as painted by the Republicans.    According to the donald,   all people of color live in inner city ghettos that are filthy,  deteriorating,  and filled with violence.   Added to that,  many Republicans portray them as parasites,  working only to get benefits from the Government,  so they can live the good life without working.   They portray them as sexually promiscuous,  producing many children they cannot afford to feed, and continually aborting inconvenient fetuses.   They are portrayed as criminals,  flooding the Perfect World of White America with drugs and prostitutes.


Another example of “The Other”  is the LGBTQ community in America.   Again,  the Republicans scream out unsubstantiated claims about them,  and,  almost every legislative body from states up to the Congress has passed or tried to pass laws which remove the basic rights for Citizens as laid out in the Constitution.   Some of these laws have taken root and are still there.  Most have been thrown out by the courts.   The current tempest that the Republicans are using to stir up their followers is the amazingly silly,  but emotional,  fears over which gender bathroom that TransGender folks use to relieve themselves.   The rhetoric on this is amazing,  as it is so far out of left field that one wonders what planet the folks that produce it live on.  There are a huge number of people who claim that if trans women are allowed in woman’s bathrooms,  they will sexually molest small children.   There are some who say that allowing this will enable sexual predators who are NOT Trans  to claim “To be women today”,  head into the bathroom,  and engage in perverted acts.   This view is unsupported by reality and has NEVER been shown to have any evidence of being the truth.   The fact is that Trans folks have been using the facilities next to Cis folks for hundreds of years,  without problems.    Yet…by invoking “The Other” as a danger, the Republicans rile up their followers,  build support and get votes.


The last example of “The Other” I will touch on here are the immigrants and migrant workers who enter America.   The Republicans have been painting every Refugee and immigrant that is not White as a possible terrorist.   They produce a continual drumbeat of fear over a flood of Muslim Terrorists slipping into the country and destroying our infrastructure, and society.   They  have pushed the idea of “Muslim Terrorist”  so hard that many of their followers believe that is one,  not two,  words.   There are approximately 1.7 billion Muslims in the world.   Less than 200,000 are the fanatical fundamentalists who are engaging in this (ultimately futile)  war to take their society back to a mythical time when the Caliphate ruled,  and all Muslims supported Religious Purity!


The fact is that,  since 2001/09/11,  there have been a few, fairly small  acts of terrorism,  but almost all of these were not perpetuated by immigrants,  but,  rather,  were by Citizens or legal residents of the country whose basic,  fundamentalist views of reality  had been inflamed and radicalized by the treatment of Muslims  in America since that day.


The issue of migrant workers is another use of The Other.   The Republicans  have, for as long as I can recall,   trumpeted how terrible these people who snuck into the United States to live and work are.   As the donald said in his FIRST speech when he stepped into the ring to run for the Office of President:

 When Mexico sends its people,  they are not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us.  They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

The bottom line is that the concept of “The Other” is a useful tool for the Republicans to keep their followers stirred up.   Their view of America is of a lily-white population,  and a society of bucolic peace rather like the fantasy presented in “The Andy Griffith Show”.   In order to achieve the goal of controlling their followers,  they, rather cynically,  use the concept of “The Other”  to give Americans an enemy – a Boogie Man – to hate and look upon as the Enemy of their culture.   Alas,  this is delusional on their part,  for a variety of reasons.

  • America has NEVER been a homogenous society.   it has always been a melting pot  from its origins with the Landing of the Pilgrims, until today.   The country is too big,  and too diverse to be the sort of society that much smaller countries,  such as Japan,  or Norway  exhibit.
  • They are blind to the fact that immigrants bring strength to the county,  and are NOT tearing it down.   Diversity is the best survival tool on Earth.   As a botanical  example of the importance of diversity,  let me tell this story.     Back about 40 years or so ago,  The Tennessee Valley Authority  wanted to perk up the park lands near one of their flagship dams,  so it would be more attractive to tourists.   So,  being a bureaucracy,  they had crews come in and plant hundreds of pine trees over the entire park.   This looked great for quite a while  as the saplings rapidly grew into large shade trees. But,  after a decade or so of growth,   we had a massive infestation of Pine Borer beetles.   They must have thought they were in heaven when they landed on the grounds around the dam,  as there was nothing there but pine trees.   Over a two year period,  the infestation killed off EVERY one of the pine trees.    Had the TVA paid attention to the forestry experts around the area,  they would have ended up with a mixed species forest that would have likely made it more difficult for the Pine Borers to survive – because the pine trees were far more scattered out –  and would have ensured that the appearance of the Reservation would not have been seriously impacted if the pine trees HAD been lost.
  • The fact of the matter is that the ACA, while it does have problems, was a huge step forwards for Americans.  It shielded them from many of the abusive treatments that the Health Care Insurance industry profited from in years past.   it  ended up getting 20 million Americans who had not had insurance before covered so they could have a net in case of catastrophe,  and,  could access preventative care – cutting the number of people in Crisis that showed up at the E.R.   The Republican alternative, as it is turning out,  essentially returns us to the bad old days of unregulated Industry,  promising to kick 24 million people off their coverage,  and likely causing rural hospitals to have to close their doors.   This is a moment where the folks that voted for the donald are getting a cold chill down their spine.  Many of them have just realized that the “Obamacare” they hated is the same package as the ACA – which is providing them with life-saving medications and treatments.  So…when the Obamacare goes away…they will be out in the cold again!   A perfect example of “The Other”  distracting the voters so they will not realize that light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train.
  • As I have pointed out earlier,  not all Muslims are insane,  fanatical fundamentalists;   all but a tiny percentage are living life just like everyone else,  trying to rear their children to be good people,  trying to keep food on the table,  and trying to keep danger and violence out of their lives.
  • Migrant workers do not come to America with the goal of putting Americans out of work.   They come here because even the crappy wages they are paid are much better than they can get in Mexico,  which allows them to live here, and still send money back home to help their families.   They come here as undocumented workers because there is a huge demand on the part of Americans for cheap labor to pick the produce,  clean the houses and hotels,   run the restaurants,  and build the buildings here.

What can we, as Liberals/Progressives do to fight  against this use of “The Other?”   That is a difficult question,  as I have demonstrated here,  the concept of “The Other”  is a basic instinct that cannot be eliminated.   However,  each of us DOES have the ability to look at these instinctive reactions,  and choose not to allow them to control us.   So,  I suggest that ways to help push back and keep the Republicans from exploiting this instinct include the following:

  1. Continue to be aware of the basic concept of “The Other” as a tool of control,  and look at every statement from a politician with care.
  2. Be aware of the images their words generate.   If it feels like those images are of faceless,  scary enemies…step back and do not accept what is being said without question.
  3. if you run into people on Social Media who are caught up in this madness…politely and calmly interact with them,  with the goal of confronting them with the truth,  in the hopes that this will bring them to see reality again.
  4. If they are ranting about “The Other” of the day – The Muslims,  folks from the LGBTQ community,  “Libtards”,  etc,   give it a shot.   However keep in mind that  sometimes there will be no “dialogue” or possibility of dialogue.  As I have pointed out elsewhere,   dealing with Right-Wingers who are caught up in that beau monde of delusion  can be frustrating  because they seem to be immune to facts.    In that case,  I suggest stating the truth,  and moving on.
  5. When you run across a person like this,  remember it is a waste of time and energy to attempt to argue with them,  as that is like playing chess with a pigeon.   The pigeon may always lose, but, it will just strut around  crapping on the board and knocking pieces off it,   and will claim to have won anyway.

God Help Us All!


Bee Man Dave

(A)  –  Early hominids (5.3 million years ago)
(C)   The concept of “Otherness” as it applies to the tribe,  and how it is often controlled by political movements.
(D)  The other as it applies to other tribal groups
(E)  The other and “Othering” – a short introduction

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What Drives Republicans?

Greetings and Salutations;

I have been unable to avoid the turmoil over the ongoing madness in the Political world these days.  One thing that I have observed is that the Republicans have pushed a big chunk of their motivations for the ongoing cuts in social services and government  so far behind the rhetoric that it is easy to forget that the programming exists.  However,  it does…and if we fail to recognize it,  the process of understanding and fighting against their “Slash and Burn cuts” to these programs will be more difficult at best,  and impossible at worst.


Much of the world view of the Republican party leaders is firmly rooted in the philosophy of Objectivism.   This school of thought is based on these precepts:

  1. Materialism –  Objectivists believe there is nothing beyond that which exists as a physical object,  and those objects have intrinsic properties that are independent of other influences.
  2. Realism –  Since everything has a material existence,  and properties,   All that look at an item will see precisely the same thing.
  3. Ethics – Objectivism believes in “Rational Self-Interest”. One’s own self interest is all that has importance,  and,  no person has the obligation to take any concern for the happiness,  needs,  etc,  of any other person.
  4. Politics – The Objectivist does believe that there should be SOME government,  but it should be the minimum needed to provide for property rights, common defense and law.   The government should have no powers outside of these three areas.
  5. Business – Objectivists,  based on these other facets of their belief system,  prefer a laissez-faire capitalism,  where business men are allowed to do pretty much anything they want,  because they understand that becoming too extreme will lose them business and profits.

A somewhat longer and more detailed discussion of this philosophy and its failings is available here..


A major proponent of this philosophy was the author, Ayn Rand.  (here is  More information about her life)   Her two major books:   “The Fountainhead” – published in 1943,  and “Atlas Shrugged” – Published in 1957 have  became quite wide-spread,  best sellers.  They have  helped generate a movement that exists today.  However,  her main claim to fame is her creation of  the philosophy of Objectivism.   She used her books  to expand and  polish it to the point it exists today.  For those who have escaped reading Ayn Rand’s works,  here follows a synopsis of her two,  major novels.

  • “The Fountainhead” tells the story of Howard Roark, who is an individualistic young architect who refuses to compromise his artistic and personal vision for worldly recognition and success. The story follows his battle to practice modern architecture while opposed by an establishment centered on tradition. Roark embodies what Rand believed to be the ideal man, and his struggle reflects Rand’s belief that individualism is superior to collectivism. here is a link to a   Further discussion of this book
  • “Atlas Shrugged” depicts a dystopian United States, wherein many of society’s most prominent and successful industrialists abandon their fortunes and even the nation, in response to aggressive new regulations, whereupon most vital industries collapse. The title is a reference to Atlas, a Titan described in the novel as “the giant who holds the world on his shoulders”. The significance of this reference appears in a conversation between the characters Francisco d’Anconia and Hank Rearden, in which d’Anconia asks Rearden what advice he would give Atlas upon seeing that “the greater [the titan’s] effort, the heavier the world bore down on his shoulders”. With Rearden unable to answer, d’Anconia gives his own response: “To shrug”.   This,  very lengthy tome (at 1000 pages)  provides a very complete examination of Rand’s philosophy of Objectivism.   Here are some more information and links about the book

Based on the definition of Ethics used by the Objectivists,   there is no call for society or individuals to provide aid to the disadvantaged.   As a matter of fact,  Ms. Rand,  in “Atlas Shrugged”  expresses quite a bit of contempt for the poor and disabled…calling them  “parasites”, “looters”, and “moochers who demand the benefits of the heroes’ labor”.   She hated the idea of any form of a welfare state,  decrying the very concept ,  and saying that ALL Citizens should succeed on their own with out the help or support of the Government or any other citizen.  What caused this hardening of attitudes towards government and the needy?   Let us look at her life to see if there is any insight there.

Ayn Rand was born into a fairly privileged life in Russia.  During her Formative Years,  her father was a quite well off  Pharmacist,  who apparently had quite a gift for the profession,  and so garnered accolades and wealth.    However, In 1917, her father’s shop was seized by Bolshevik soldiers during the general upheaval of the Civil War that kicked out the Czars and installed the Leninists and the family was shipped off to the Crimea.  In that event, they ended up   losing all of their wealth,  and were forced to  live in poverty until she managed to escape to the United States in 1926.   These events,  at pivotal points in her life,  really solidified her dislike for Government and the power it wields.   I suspect that the 9 years or so of living in the Crimea impacted her too,  as she and her family were one of many in the area who were stripped of wealth,  and likely heard quite a bit of complaining about how they deserved a better life,  and bitter comments  about how the Czars had lived the high life,  and when the Communists,  led by Lenin, took over,  they failed to distribute the wealth evenly as promised,  and so kept most of it for themselves.   If she had a bit too much “hero worship” for her father,  the conflict between the humiliation of being cast into poverty,  and the great life that his perfection had provided would have gone a long way towards killing off any Empathy she might have had for the downtrodden.  it has been my observation over the years that unless a person has spent significant time in self-reflection,  and worked on self-awareness,   that person will ALWAYS assume that everyone around them has a life and skill set that matches their own.


Does any of the above sound familiar?   It should!   Buried in the proceeding text are most, if not all,  of the basic tenets of the Republican Party as it exists today!


Most, if not all,  of the Republicans in power now look upon themselves as “Ubermensch”  –  The Overlords –  who have started out with nothing,  but, through the dint of hard work,  persistence,  and their own innate excellence,  have been elevated to the Lofty Position of Leaders of the Citizens.   Listen to their rhetoric.  It drips with the attitude of “I am smarter than you;  I am more educated than you;  I know what is best for you,  far better than what you could understand”.    Right Now,  the administration is working to eliminate  Health Care rules and regulations from the body of Law we live under…They are working to cut back, or eliminate programs such as Medicare/Medicaid  and Social Security.   They are working to build trade barriers that will give the manufacturers in America an advantage.  They are working to eliminate the tax burden that they have right now,   so instead of having to support the parasites,   they can keep all that lovely money for themselves.

The adherents of Objectivism though,  ignore the fact that their picture of their life story is, in most cases,  a lie.   Look at the makeup of Congress and the Administration today.   A vast majority of the Republicans in that body were born to rich parents,  have lived a life of privilege,  and, have NO concept of how the huge majority of Americans live today.   Also,  the fact is, as we are already seeing, they lack Empathy, or concern for anyone who is not themselves, or outside of their immediate family.  Objectivism,  as a basis for an entire society,  is doomed to abject failure.   It fails to take into consideration these very real facts:

  • Too many people are  liars, cheats  and eaten up with greedy twits.   If there is a plate of cookies on a table for all to share,  a vast majority of people will fill their own pockets with the cookies…taking far more than they need and deny others a cookie or two.   They will say, or do,  what ever is necessary to enrich themselves,  and throw others under the bus without blinking.
  • Rational Self-Interest”  is bad for society.   It inevitably leads to businessmen being unable to build a trust relationship that is vital for productivity.   As an example – Business A  makes a deal with Business B to provide parts – say,  milled heads for Diesel Engines – at a given cost  because they have found that Business B’s product is a very reliable one.  Business B is likely to start taking short-cuts in the manufacture of the heads,  so as to increase their profit margin.   Business A  builds a large number of engines  for a pivotal order using these (now inferior) heads.   When the Engines are delivered,  they fail,  and Business A is driven nearly out of business, or out of business.   What is the likelihood that Business A will EVER purchase product from Business B again?   I suggest that they will NEVER do it…because Business B cannot be trusted to provide a product of adequate quality.   Other vendors may cost  more,  but, if they can be TRUSTED to provide a consistent product,   Business A will work with them instead…taking a smaller profit m
  • Too many people are,  liars and greedy twits.   If there is a plate of cookies on a table for all to share,  a vast majority of people will fill their own pockets with the cookies…taking far more than they need and deny others a cookie or two.   They will say, or do,  what ever is necessary to enrich themselves,  and throw others under the bus without blinking.
  • Rational Self-Interest”  is bad for society.   It inevitably leads to businessmen being unable to build a trust relationship that is vital for productivity.   As an example – Business A  makes a deal with Business B to provide parts – say,  milled heads for Diesel Engines – at a given cost  because they have found that Business B’s product is a very reliable one.  Business B is likely to start taking short-cuts in the manufacture of the heads,  so as to increase their profit margin.   Business A  builds a large number of engines  for a pivotal order using these (now inferior) heads.   When the Engines are delivered,  they fail,  and Business A is driven nearly out of business, or out of business.   What is the likelihood that Business A will EVER purchase product from Business B again?   I suggest that they will NEVER do it…because Business B cannot be trusted to provide a product of adequate quality.   Other vendors may cost  more,  but, if they can be TRUSTED to provide a consistent product,   Business A will work with them instead…taking a smaller profit margin  for but likely seeing continued growth of their customer base,  and having a customer base that will keep coming back year after year to buy their product.
  • This is just one example,  but, almost any relationship has the same format.    Look at personal relationships.   Would any of us trust a person who bad-mouthed us behind our backs,  and/or failed to follow through on actions they promised?  I suspect the answer is “No.”  What happens to that relationship where these betrayals happen?  It becomes more and more distant;  we stop sharing experiences,  or making contact with that person.   We end up with them pushed away from us,  or simply an adjunct where we deal with them when we have to,  and then,  only with the minimum amount we have to.
  • Objectivism’s contempt for the disadvantaged will produce a society of classes that are separated by a wall of prejudice and hate.   Its adherence to the idea that every person is responsible for making their own success in the world ignores the fact that there are many times when events outside of our control will cause massive disruption in our lives,  and leave us unable to get back on the ladder without help.   Let us look at a person who has worked at one job for 20+ years,  but loses that job because their company closes.   Thanks to the economy,  including the fluctuations in inflation and the like,  what used to be a decent, if low, salary when they started to work  is now eroded away so much that  they are living  paycheck to paycheck and have no pad to help with disasters like this.   In addition,  they live in a “Right To Work” state…which means no unions,  and no advocates for better pay,  other than them going into the boss’s office and trying to negotiate for more money.   So…they are without income suddenly,  but the bills keep coming in.  Unless they are very lucky,  it can take months to find a new job…in that time,  they can end up homeless,  and starving.   They do not have enough cash to get training for another job…and, perhaps they are learning impaired enough that learning a new job is not likely to be productive in the first place.   What do they do in the Objectivist World?   Starve or freeze to death I suppose…or turn to a life of crime!   What, exactly,  should they have changed in their lives to take control and to avoid this?   To me,  this is the same, basic situation as Ms. Rand went through in 1917.   An outside force blasted in, and totally destroyed the house of cards that was their life.   Now,  in American Society,  at least for the moment,  we have governmental resources that will provide aid for a period of time.   Money and resources for food,  lodging and the basic necessities of life.   What is provided is not enough to allow a comfortable life,  but, it is possible to exist on it.   Oh yes,  by the by,  while Ms. Rand may have expressed contempt for the idea of Governmental Aid,  she was not shy about applying for it on towards the end of her life.   This is discussed here and while it might not be the height of hypocrisy for her to have gotten it,  she did find it uncomfortable enough to be receiving these benefits from the Government she hated,   that she turned over the responsibility for getting the payments set up to another person.
  • A society that is built on the concepts of Objectivism is a tough, and cruel place to live.  I suspect that even the people who advocate it would not actually want to live in it.   The “Dog Eat Dog”  attitudes that it entails ensure that the only way to succeed is to climb on the bodies of those that one has thrown under the bus.    it adds pain and suffering to the lives of many,  and benefits only the few.  The question which I have asked of many Libertarians/Objectivists  is this “IS this the kind of society YOU would want to live in?”   The only people that have answered “Yes” to that question have been the folks that are young and foolish enough to believe that they are immune to disasters in their life.   Most folks simply ignore my question.

So…as you listen to the pontifications of the Republicans in charge…Remember Ayn Rand, their God and Mentor,  and what her  flawed view of how reality should be can bring on.   It explains a lot about the actions they take and the laws they attempt to pass.


What can we do to combat this?   There are a few, fairly simple steps that can combat this blight on Society.

  1. Do not let the Representatives and SCROTUS slip these cuts through without protest.   Even if you think it will not help to contact these folks…it does.
  2. If you are at a meeting with your Representative,   press them about how their policies are based in the debunked nonsense spread about like manure that Ayn Rand left us.
  3. VOTE!   make it a point to go to the polls and vote for a candidate whose platform and life of service shows that they ARE looking out for ALL of us…not just themselves and their wealthy clique.

Here is some useful information I have gathered together and am scattering around the Net.  Feel Free to repost to your Social Networks…If you have read this far,  you are likely NOT happy with the idea of living in the dystopian society that the Republicans want to create,  so,  hopefully this information will make it easier to contact your Representatives (from local and state up to Federal) to let them know what you feel about the job they are doing:

First off, understand that anyone that tells you that a communication from you as a Constituent, to your Representative is a waste of time, because the politicians only pay attention to the lobbyists that write them the big checks, is lying to you. They are likely fearful that if you DO contact your Representative, it will destroy their chances for some big score from the Government.
Now…to help change your government and what it is doing, there are some simple things to do.
1) Use this tool – or this one to track down YOUR Representatives.
2) Email or call them to let them know your objection or support for the item of interest. When you do this, be SURE to follow these guidelines:
…..a) Be Clear about what you are talking about.
…..b) Do not write a lengthy, emotional rant. Be polite, and simply tell them whether you support or oppose the issue, and give them a single reason why you feel that way.
…..c) Repeat as necessary.

CLING to the basic truth that “All that Evil needs to succeed is for good people to do nothing” and use that as motivation to send that next Email or make that next phone call.

Your Elected officials pay attention when 10,000 emails show up. They pay attention when thousands of constituents call them up. Why? Well, it is fairly simple. They like their jobs! They know that the folks that are contacting them are the voters that care and are paying attention to what they are doing. They are also the people that can vote for someone else if they are sufficiently unhappy with the job the incumbent is doing.

Politicians might ignore a petition with 10,000 signatures, but, 10,000 emails, phone calls, or snail mail notes make a big impact and will get their attention.

Feel free to distribute this block of text. It is available for use under the Open Source License – The only limits are that it must stay intact (but can be extended) and I would appreciate a credit if used.

God Help Us All


Bee Man Dave

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Sifting Through The Ashes, Part Fifteen: Who are the Monsters?

Greetings and Salutations;



This post, from Michael Adam Latz,  showed up on my FaceBook feed this morning.   It is so full of truth and foreboding  that I decided to post it here,  so,  with luck,  many more will see it, and think about its message.





Of all the photographs at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum that wrecked my heart, this one was the absolute worst.




It shows soldiers from Auschwitz, the Concentration Camp where more than 1,000,000 Jews and others were murdered in the gas chambers, enjoying a day off.


Look at these people!


Seemingly ordinary soldiers on a day off, enjoying themselves. How many people had they already tortured and murdered? How many more would they gas to death?


Photos of Trump and Bannon don’t frighten me.


What terrifies me are the seemingly ordinary Americans who work at the Justice Department, for ICE, for the police department, for the airports and customs and TSA, for any department of government, who, in the course of their job, will carry out atrocities and fail to resist immoral orders and directives.


Our moral obligation is to encourage resistance and resilience in every sector of our society. Keep speaking about resistance! Call upon “ordinary” people to act morally, to resist immoral directives from their superiors, to rise every day with moral courage.


It is up to each and every one of us to resist.




The fact is,  as this comment shows,   the lie that “Only Monsters could do this”  is wrong.   It is a fact that each of us has, within ourselves,  the ability to be that Monster that would dutifully herd people into gas chambers,  and their corpses into the ovens.   Think this is simply the opinion of one,  flaky guy out there,  ranting on the Internet?   Let me introduce you to the work of Ron Jones,   a teacher at Elwood P. Cubberley Senior High School, Palo Alto, California, USA.   In 1967,  he  created what was supposed to be a small experiment to see how difficult it would be to get a group of ordinary kids to act as the guards mentioned above did.   I suggest you take a moment to read the entire story of the experience.  There were other articles and movies that looked at this experiment.   In short,  it took almost NO time for the privileged students to begin acting JUST like the Auschwitz guards.






I mentioned the Stanford Prison Cell experiment above.   This psychological experiment,  done in 1971,  was also designed to test how long it would take for ordinary people to treat others as the guards at the German Prison Camps treated them.   As it turned out,  once again,   the results were quick…and chilling.   Here is a link to the page which documents the experiment.      Here is a discussion of how the results of that experiment could be applied to today’s world, specifically,  the abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib


Finally,   there is the infamous “Milgrim Experiment”.    The test was created to see if people would follow orders to electrocute strangers.   Well,  sadly enough,  they were,  and,  thought nothing of doing it.   I recall this experiment,  and the reports that the people pushing the button to turn the electricity on would keep punching it past the point that,  if it had been “real”,  the subject would have died.    Sadly enough,  as this article  describes,  a recent re-run of the experiment shows that things have not changed in the least.


As Mr. Latz  points out…All that Evil needs to succeed is for people of good will to do nothing.   Right now,  we are in a political situation that bears chilling resemblance to the two experiments in the psychology of humanity I have quoted here.   Specifically…read the techniques used in the Stanford Prison Experiment…and compare them with what is happening today with the current Administration.   We must not choose to be the good people who stood by and did nothing to stop the evil.   We must not ignore what is happening just over the hill.   We must not pretend that the fall of ashes the winds blow into our village,  like a flurry of terrible snowflakes  has nothing to do with us,  or is not as bad as it might be.






God Help Us All


Bee Man Dave

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An Update On The Bee World

Greetings and Salutations;
The world of the Bees continues to be complicated.    The issue of bee deaths is a problem still,  as the scientists are still trying to understand how the colonies work,  and what the environment stresses  do to affect them.    There have been a number of arguments over the past decade or so  as to what has caused the die off of colonies –  the “Colony Collapse Disorder” problem.    Slowly data is coming in,  and, while we are still trying to interpret it,  at least progress has been happening.
The massive die-off of colonies started in,  about 2004,  and has continued on since then.   I recall in 2004/2006  there were beekeepers who were losing 60% to 80% of their bees.   This fueled a great deal of concern in the world,   as people suddenly realized that a huge percentage of the food that keeps them alive is pollinated by bees!  No Bees?  No Food!  There after been a couple of interesting articles that have shown up in the Cyber-Ocean discussing the situation,  so I thought I would post them here…
First off  There is an interesting article in an Organics/Holistic Health website.  –   Now,  this article is really pushing the idea that it is a big problem with NeoNic Pesticides and some herbicides  that are damaging the colonies.   This IS a good point,  and I have to say that I agree with it to a point.    There are also links to sources on this article that allow for further research.
A more conservative view was presented by Forbes Magazine.   It appears to be fairly level-headed,  in that it admits that there is a problem,  but, is fairly positive about the outcome of the difficulties.  Of course,  being a conservative,  money-oriented publication,  it does blow off the issues of the effects of the NeoNics on the colony…which I think is not a wise move.  However, if their data is correct,   and I have not checked it yet,  it appears that the big die-off of the 2004/2006  time frame has eased off,  and the number of colonies seems to be fairly stabilize now.  We shall see.
The bee population in the United States  does face some serious challenges.  Challenges  that are putting severe pressure on them and making it harder for them to survive.   One other issue (which is examined in more detail in the Forbes article)  is the spread of Varroa Mites across the country.  These parasites are really bad for the bees  in that they spread through a colony,  integrate themselves into the brood cells,  and weaken all the bees in the colony.    Now,  one thing that is helping that situation a bit is the introduction of Russian bees into the gene pool of the American bees.  The Russian bees are very resistant to the mites,  and seem to help the situation quite a bit.   The battle continues!
More later
Bee Man Dave

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Sifting Through The Ashes, Part Fourteen – Revisiting Health Insurance. A “Better” Plan?

Greetings and Salutations;

Well,  back in January,  I wrote a blog entry about the Paul Ryan plan to replace the ACA.  That plan was,  frankly,  bat-shit crazy,  in that it was essentially taking us back to the abusive days that ended a decade ago, with the implementation of the ACA..and was centered around the idea of a Tax-Free Healthcare Savings Accounts.   At the time,   I expressed my opinion that this was a BAD idea,  and discussed why I thought so.


Well,  the Republicans have finally released their proposal for the laws that will replace the ACA.   It,  frankly,  makes the Ryan plan look like the height of mercy and rationality.   When Shawn Spicer held his Press Conference to announce this nonsense,  his biggest selling point was that it was a much smaller stack of paper than the ACA!  It is 125 pages or so long.  The ACA is around 2000 pages,  so that is true.   However, as anyone with a lick of sense understands,  the ACA is a complicated piece of legislation,  that deals with a lengthy laundry list of problems with the Health Insurance Industry; unregulated areas that allowed them to abuse the Consumers and reap huge profits in the process..   So,  yes…it did take a lot of pages of text to detail all that it wanted to accomplish.   The simple fact that the Republican alternative is a fraction of its size simply means that the this alternative has some serious problems at dealing with these complicated issues.


While this is not a comprehensive List of the issues with the Republican debacle,  here are some high points that provide examples of where it fails the American Consumer.


  • End the requirement that individuals buy health insurance or pay a penalty (sometimes called the shared responsibility provision). This would, according to one draft, be retroactive to after January 1, 2016, so that there would be no penalty on 2016 taxes   This is going to be a problem,  because the result will be that the younger,  healthier folks that take up some of the burden of the costs of health care  will likely drop that insurance, and go back to doing without again.  Of course,  this will ensure that the the amount of money available to cover insurance payouts will plummet.   It will also result in a much larger pool of Citizens who have no insurance,  so,  will depend on the Emergency Rooms for help when disaster hits,  and,  will likely walk away from that debt – raising the costs for the remainder of the folks.
  • End the requirement that certain employers (typically those with 50 or more employees) offer insurance to their employees.  I am sure that many companies will drop the insurance they have been required to offer their employees as quickly as possible.  I am also sure that the cash that these companies save from not having to pay out these insurance premiums will NOT go into the pockets of the workers.   Rather,  it will go into the pockets of the Management and Stock Holders in the company.  Of course, this will screw the consumer over because it will force them to go out into the market, and purchase health insurance on their own.   
  • Expand Health Savings Accounts (HSAs) by nearly doubling the cap (max contributions for 2017 are currently $3,400 for individuals or $6,750 for families, more on how they work here).  As I pointed out in my previous Blog entry,  HSAs are great if one has spare cash to drop into it.  However,  for the vast number of Americans who are living paycheck to paycheck,  it is likely that they will NEVER put anything into a HSA..and if they can,  it will be a small amount.   Now,  The limits that this law places on contributions to a HSA are foolish also.  the caps are so low that the only way to get ahead is to never use the HSA.   It is trivial these days for a single visit to an ER, which mostly consists of sitting around waiting for attention for several hours,  to cost $5000…and an admission from the ER kicks the immediate debt up to $10,000 or more.  I just heard about a study by the Government  that came to the conclusion that at least half of the Citizens would not be able to cover a $400 cost for an emergency.  Their only emergency net is to put a charge like this on a credit card.   Now,  this could be a problem for the millions of Americans who do not have a credit card.  Also,  getting a loan like this through a credit card is ruinously expensive.  The interest rates on credit cards is always a huge percentage of the costs of using them,  and cause the amount owed to grow like Kudzu iuntil the balance is paid off.
  • Repeal of the premium health tax credit.   This is a “Luxury tax” on the high end policies,  and really only affected the people with $1,000,000 or more in yearly income.
  • Implement a tax credit ($2,000-$14,000/year) for taxpayers who do not receive insurance through their employer or a government program. Again,  like many program proposals by the current administration, the specifics of this tax credit are still unsettled: the options for the credit range from it being income based  to an age based calculation. Now, the draft may well incorporate both options.  A chart of these proposals is on page eight of the draft bill.
  • End federal funding for Planned Parenthood and any other healthcare providers that even MENTION the idea of abortion.  There are also other restrictions on coverage related to abortion – the term “abortion” appears 29 times in one version of the draft bill.  This is a terrible idea for several reasons.   First off,  this tramps all over the separation of Church and State,  as laid out in the Constitution and the Federalist Papers.   Secondly,  PP  offers a huge number of female health care services, including cancer screening,  prenatal care, etc.  It also spends a big chunk of time working with clients to help them find what is best for THEM.   Fourthly,  the Abortion part of their services is a tiny percentage of their services.    Finally,   Planned Parenthood  traditionally  builds its clinics in the areas that are ignored by the other,  For-Profit clinics.  So,  PP is providing a vital service for the poorer communities in America.   Removing funding from PP for their abortion services would be like killing your spouse because they broke their big toe.
  • Repeal a number of taxes (like the tanning tax, Net Income Investment Tax, Medicare surtax and medical device excise tax) used to pay for Obamacare.  Since these are a big source of funding for the subsidies of the ACA,  this will also leave us with an unfunded mandate that will,  unless other sources of revenue are found,  increase the Deficit, and hence,  the Debt.
  • Allow over-the-counter medications to be qualifying expenses for HSAs and similar plans
  • Restore the 7.5% floor on medical expense deductions.  This would be more impressive if it had not increased to 10% for taxpayers in 2016.
  • A big part of the ACA  is that it has quite a few provisions which provide support for research into ways to cure and prevent  the ills of humanity.   TrumpCare eliminates this funding.   So,  for example, funding for research into Colo-Rectal cancer will go away completely or, at best, be cut quite a bit.   This will lead to more people getting the problem, and any possible treatment for it being pushed off into the distant future.     As the old saying says “An ounce of Prevention  is better than a pound of Cure”.

Since the Republicans are seeing a groundswell of opposition from their Constituents who are realizing that if “Obamacare” goes away,  so does their coverage under the ACA (yes…there are a large percentage of Right-Wingers who do not realize that ObamaCare and the ACA are the same thing)  some of the provisions of the ACA are retained by this new proposal.  These include the following:


  • Children would be allowed to remain on their parents’ health insurance plans until age 26.
  • Insurance companies would not be able to deny coverage or charge more for those with preexisting medical conditions. Of course,  because the Insurance Industry has big pull with the Republicans,  they are changing this so that if a person loses their coverage,  when they get new insurance the agency will be able to charge them a much higher premium.
  • Coverage in states with Medicaid expansion would remain.  However,  there are changes to coverage being moved through by the States,  which will cut down on the insurance available,  and likely will increase the costs of insurance.
  • Employers would still be required to report the value of health insurance benefits on forms W-2.  This  WAS important because it was proof that you had insurance during the year, and so were exempted from the penalty.  However, with the penalty gone,  this seems a waste of paper.   But NO!  there is a reason for it!  See the NEXT set of notes.


Some provisions had been discussed but didn’t make it into the draft proposal – but that doesn’t mean they’re completely off the table. Those include:


  • Taxing employer-provided benefits. Currently, health care provided by your employer is tax-free.  However, the above reporting on the W-2 will make it trivial to slip it into the “Taxable Income” bracket,  as the amount will already be included in the tax forms filed for each worker.   Guess who will get screwed by THIS little Revenue Enhancing measure?
  • Repealing the “Cadillac tax” on high-end health care provided by employers. At this point in time,  the tax is not being collected,  as it was scheduled to begin in 2020.  However, this  proposal would push off the tax from 2020 to 2025.



What can we do about this?   I suggest a few steps that are easy,  take little time, and can have a significant effect.


1)  Take a few minutes and Email your Federal Representatives,  and the SCROTUS.   Here is a tool that will make it easy to track down the appropriate contact pages and Email addresses  In your Email, be polite about it,  but, very clear about the fact that you strongly oppose the repeal of the ACA, and the substitution of TrumpCare for it.


2)  Vote.    In the coming elections,  make it a point to go to the polls and cast a vote for the candidate that BEST expresses the values you support.  No candidate will be perfect (unless YOU are running for the office),  but,  focus less on their mistakes of judgment, and more on their views that reflect yours.


3)  Support your neighbors, friends and family in voting.   Get them rides to the polls, or take them to the polls.   Help them get registered.   Do what is necessary to ensure that their rights as a citizen are not blocked by draconian and convoluted laws that are designed to keep them from being registered to vote.   Support them and remind them that it is VITAL that every Citizen take a little time and vote.


If we all do just one or two small, and painless things like this,   it will be possible for us to actually take back control of America from the politicians that are running things now.


God Help Us All!


Bee Man Dave



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Allegiance? Allegiance to WHAT?

Greetings and Salutations;

Today, February 19th 2017, is the 75th anniversary of a shameful event in America’s history. Executive Order 9066 (issued on February 19, 1942), signed by FDR, authorized the forced removal and Internment of approximately 120,000 Japanese-American citizens. These folks were immigrants who had lived in the country for decades. a third of them were children…making them “Natural Born Citizens”. Why was this done? The attack on  Pearl Harbor had awakened an irrational fear in the mind of the public. The Japanese had attacked on, of course, December 7, 1941. Over the next month or so, a wave of paranoia swept the country, and ALL people of Asian descent were looked upon with suspicion. There were rumors that they were here, spying on the war effort, and preparing for an attack from the inside of the country. These rumors were false, created and pushed by faceless people. Some of the rumors started out of fear. Some, I suspect, were pushed by people who held an agenda to acquire more assets for next to nothing from the dispossessed Citizens.

Japanese-Americans, Interned
in 1942

If you want to see some video,  click HERE

These videos have many more pictures and information on the events of the day.


In spite of the fact that these were hard-working, American families, and there was NO evidence of any anti-American sentiment or actions among them, after the E.O. was signed, Army troops were dispatched to tens of thousands of homes, marched up to the door with rifles loaded, and bayonets fixed, rounded up the folks living there, put them on a train, and dragged them out into various remote, unpleasant locations. There was no talk of Constitutional Rights, or Citizenship…society turned into a panicked, fearful, wild animal, and struck out at “The Other”. These Citizens lost millions of dollars of assets, often having to sell their property for pennies on the dollar; They lost their community, when it turned against them; They lost their businesses and their jobs;   They lost their dignity,  and worst of all,   they lost their Constitutionally protected Rights.


The living conditions they were put in were poor, to say the least. The camps had barracks built, but, they were of the shoddiest construction – Light construction,  No insulation; no attempts to seal against air leaks; public toilets, located in separate buildings. Food was short, and medicines almost non-existent. The excuse for that was the fact that it was war time, and everyone had to deal with shortages. Of course, it is also true that for many of the White Americans living in the area, and the White guys guarding the camps, these were the enemy…they LOOKED just like them, after all, and if the troops overseas were able to engage in terrible atrocities against our boys, these families were likely to do the same thing. So…supplies, I am sure, “disappeared” or were diverted to the War Effort.  Every year now,  on the Last Weekend in April,  the Survivors of these camps,  and their families,  hold a “Rememberance Day” to recall that dark time,  and show respect for those that lived through it but are now gone.  One of the camps,  at Manzanar, is now a National Historic Site,  and has a museum  and some re-built structures and fences.   HERE  is an strong essay about the 2016 gathering.  It is really worth reading….so go ahead…come on back when you are finished…I will be waiting!
George Takei was a 5 year old boy when his family was swept up by this madness. He was old enough to recall very clearly the time in the camps, although, as he says He looked at it through the eyes of a child – protected and insulated from some of the horror by his parents, and, unaware of how his Civil Rights had been violated. A decade or so ago, though, he was moved to ensure that this event in American History was not forgotten. It easily could have been, as I, for example never heard word one about it all the way through the history courses at High School. So, he, in collaboration with others, worked to create a Musical dealing with that period. Titled “Allegiance“, it is certainly in a class by itself.  First off, it proves that Musicals need not be laugh riots (See “Oklahoma”, for example) While there are moments of humor in it, it is a challenging movie to watch. To be drawn into that period of horror and unfair treatment, and to see how these people leaned on their inner strength to come through it with dignity and honor caused me to weep. The human tragedies played out in the film are engrossing and very real. All the performances are honest and strong…perhaps, partly because a large percentage of the performer’s families had been in the United States during World War 2, and so had been a PART of this Internment. George Takei played a couple of roles in the production, and I have to give him high marks for that. His portrayal of two characters (the Grandfather of the protagonist’s family, and the protagonist himself at an advanced age) was subtle and very well done. The two characters were similar enough that it was obvious that they came from the same blood-line, yet different enough to create two, distinct people that we, the audience could relate to.

I mention these two things in my preface, because,  today,  my wife and I went to see the movie. This is the second time it has been released for a short (I.E. one day) run, and, alas, we missed it last year. My wife asked me, as we were heading out from the theatre whether I enjoyed it. Some questions are difficult to answer, and this was one of them. As I told her, I thought it was a very worthwhile thing to see, and I did not regret the time at all. However, I am still in a Dark enough place that to say I “Enjoyed” it would be a stretch. It was hard to have such a clear reminder of what despicable and narrow minded people we Americans can be. However, if any of you have a chance to go see “Allegiance” I STRONGLY urge you to make the time, and watch it. I also suggest that you arrange the schedule so you can go to a nice restaurant afterward, have a good meal, and chat about the production, and digest what you have just seen.

“Allegiance” is important today not just for the fact that it examines a serious failure of America,  but, also as a warning that we need to watch out for, and fight against, events like that ever happening again.  Sadly, this warning is too relevant today. Look at the current administration, and the message it is pushing over and over again about Muslims. Followers of Islam are the new group of “The Others” that inspire hatred and fear among too many Americans. Some of the actions called for by the current administration have sounded chillingly like the actions and decisions that FDR took in 1942. Let us, as Americans live up to that motto “The Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave”. Do NOT become sucked into the Evil that the administration preaches, and repeat the mistakes of E.O. 9066. As “Allegiance” points out, this contaminates society, and makes us far worse than we should be. It can cause hateful words that truly hurt to be hurled back and forth, and leave wounds that separate us for decades.

Please…this one time…learn from our history of past mistakes, and fight to avoid repeating them.

God Help Us All

Bee Man Dave

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Sifting Through The Ashes, Part Thirteen – The Republican Party

Greetings and Salutations;

This article “Let’s just say it: The Republicans are the problem.”  came across my desktop today. It was so relevant to the insanity in the Political World today that I thought I would send it out into the Cyber Ocean myself.

Written some  four years ago, ,  in an opinion piece in the Washington Post,   the observations voiced in it are still  very true and worryingly relevant.  The situation has, alas, gotten so much worse since then. The Republican party has become a collection of raving, mad fanatics, who, like the mindless Zombies in “The Walking Dead” and similar programs are moving towards destruction of our world.  Although they claimed they were wanting to “Make America Great Again”,  so far, there have been no signs that this is happening.   All the changes they are implementing help the 1%ers, and hurt the rest of us..

Can America survive this collection of madness, intolerance, and the lack of governing skill? I fear that the answer is “No”, and that the coming Winter will be one of the worst periods for America that it has ever seen. The Democrats have their problems, of course, but in comparison with the hive of madness that the Republicans are caught in now, they are like a couple of  kittens spatting over a catnip toy.

What, then, can we, as Citizens, do about this problem? Let me hit some high points here.

  • I have been puzzled by this last Presidential election ever since the campaigns kicked off.
    One problem for me was the length of time that the dog and pony show went on.  24 months for a political campaign is just a bad idea.  It seems to me that a few months (say 3 months) should be quite sufficient time to allow the candidates to debate each other several times, and to re-enforce the points of the party platform.  This last General Election campaign was so long, and so full of hateful rhetoric it simply ended up producing a weary population that would  do almost anything to get it to stop.
  • We, as a country, should not tolerate the blatant and constant lies presented by the Republicans. The statistics from the fact checkers show that for every single lie produced by a Democratic party candidate, the Republicans produced hundreds of lies and slander. Some time ago, I offered a “Three Strikes” rule to govern the campaigns. It is pretty simple,  but,  I hope,  not simplistic.  I said that if a candidate is shown to have generated a “Pants on Fire” lie – a lie so egregious that even his supporters say “WOW!!! I cannot believe he said that!”, THREE times…they should be banned from the current campaign and not allowed to run for office for at least 10 years.
  • We must, as a Country, elect politicians who have principles, and yet are not so fanatical that they will reject the tool of compromise. For me, compromise is defined as “the art of horse trading so that both parties walk away feeling as if they have gotten the best of the deal” I am sure I do not have to give examples of how this art has been crushed to death, burned and the ashes scattered to the corners of the world by the Republicans over the past 20 years or so. Giving up a little bit in order to get a majority of one’s agenda is a smart way to live.
  • Speaking of Principles, we, as a People, must be willing to keep an active view of our Representatives. We need to keep track of them, and if they are not truly representing our views, we need to vote them out and replace them. We are pretty terrible at this, though.  Even in the last, highly contested, election, where emotions ran high, and there were continual screams about “Cleaning out the Swamp” and “We want CHANGE” and such, the fact is that nearly 100% of the incumbents were returned to office. That is not cleaning out anything, or making changes. It is sucking up to the status quo as if it was the only life-raft in the middle of the ocean!
  • As Citizens, it is vital that we stay engaged in the political process. In the last election, the president elect got 24% of the total possible votes. He LOST THE POPULAR VOTE by 2.8 million votes…and only took the Office because he and his team knew how to play the system. Nearly half the possible voters did not even bother to go to the poles!   It can be  challenging to vote, as life can be difficult and complicated.  but it is vital to make that effort if we truly love our country,  and want to improve it.. This huge pool of non-voters is one of the major reasons that we have a clown in office that is turning America into a focus of mockery all around the world  and working as fast as he can to destroy all social progress made in the past 40 plus years.
  • We need to ensure that the results of the Election represent the will of the people. There are three major changes that need to happen for this to be true. 1) the massive gerrymandering that perverts the ability of voters to register and vote on an level playing field needs to vanish. All districts in America need to be re-drawn, preferably by computer, according to the population in an area…NOT by political parties. 2) The State Laws which hobble the Electoral College need to be repealed. 3) The Electors in the College have GOT to understand what their job is. In this last election the College Voters failed to uphold their Mandate, as expressed by Hamilton in the Federalist Papers #68. They have become a rubber stamp for the election results and this is NOT right.

Will this happen? I doubt it, because Americans are liars. They lie to each other, and they lie to themselves about what they really want. The claim was that they wanted change in this last election. Yet, what they voted for was a crazy combination of clinging to the status quo, and wanted to burn the house down…never mind the fact that they are locked in the living room of that house!  The Republicans are not likely to support such change,  as they benefit from it.  After all,  they took control of the government in the last election  thanks to those weaknesses in the system.

We do not have to be the “perfect activist”.  We do not have to be out chaining ourselves to construction equipment;  or being arrested at protests;  or chasing down our Representatives all the time and pressuring them to support or oppose a given issue.    It can be as simple as spending five minutes  sending an email or calling one’s Representative,  and letting them know what your feelings are on an issue when we see news of something important to us.

It can be learning the skills to talk with people of opposing views, and not simply end up in a screaming match.  One of these is to start the conversation with the understanding that neither of your is going to change the other person’s mind!   A good technique is listening to what they say,  and then restating it back to them.  In theory,  this shows them that you ARE listening to them and their concerns,  and are not simply dismissing them.   This is pretty difficult to do these days, alas,  as there was so much emotion in the past election, and the chaos that started with that unexpected result is still stirring up a really deep and dark pool,  that it is too easy for the conversation to deteriorate into taking stances,  and name-calling.

I hope I am proven wrong, of course, but, one of my rules for living is “Hope for the best, but expect the worst”. So far, my expectations have been met.

God Help Us All

Bee Man Dave


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The Insanity Continues – What About Immigration?

Greetings and Salutations;
Everywhere I turn there are interesting topics to explore!   There is not a dearth of topics,  there is a tsunami of interesting issues to explore!   It has been a while since I touched on the issue of undocumented workers,  or immigrants, so,  when this question came up on social media…it seems to have kicked in an interesting examination of the whole subject.  It has been a while since I discussed this issue,  so it seemed appropriate to expand on it here.

The question that got posted was this:  “ Question? ? Opinions only no fights please, where do you stand on immigration…???”

I, of course, am going to skip over the other replies,  although they did range from some fairly thoughtful ones,  to “Don’t sneak in”.   My blog,  so,  MY answer (with some expansions)  is as follows:

Wow…how about you ask an EASY question –  like ” Breakfast-  Bacon or Sausage” (which,  by the by,  my answer is “both”).   This is a challenge to answer,  as it is such a hot-button issue for many folks.

However…here goes….

In general, I am all for it.  The waves of immigrants we have had over the years have  brought diversity and strength to America.  The various cultures that have added to the mix in America have expanded our cuisine.  We have the options now of going from the “good old,  Steak and Potatoes”,  to Italian Pasta Dishes (Cacio e Pepe – which is Spaghetti,  with a lot of melted cheese and pepper, and is VERY tasty),  to Ethiopian dishes (Can be heavy on Meat,  but some really spectacular Vegetarian dishes),  to English cooking (One of my favorites,  the “Cottage Pie” – which is beef and vegetables and spices topped with mashed potatoes).  And of course, many OTHER societies have brought pretty wonderful dishes to expand our food options.

The immigrants have brought their philosophical views,  which have expanded and modified our understanding of our own beliefs.  Now my ethical and moral basis was formed by growing up in the Lutheran Church.   As a child,  I understood as a child,  and often thought that what Luther was writing about was the “One True Way”.   Well,  when I became a man,  I put away childish things.   My exposure to Islam,  Buddhism,  Native American beliefs,  and alternative Philosophies have expanded my understanding of things spiritual, and of the many, possible, “paths to God”.   There are too many folks,  who,  I believe, are clinging to their childhood.  They reject the beliefs of these societies,  out of fear that it will destroy their own beliefs, or something like that.   While learning about other beliefs and philosophies has,  indeed,  evolved my beliefs,  it has hardly destroyed them.   Common threads I find running through almost all of these belief systems  are concepts like we should treat our fellow humans with kindness and tolerance.  That we should help the downtrodden and needy.  That we should work as hard as we can to examine ourselves,  and exercise our spiritual connection with ourselves and others,  to become a better person, and to gain depth of character.   I believe that without the alternative views that other cultures bring to our society,  this spiritual growth is much more difficult, and far less likely to happen.

Immigrants have brought their art to add to our society.  Life is more than work, sex, food and sleep.   Art is a vital part of life for me.   It adds joy to our lives,  it brings interesting experiences,  it shows us a point of view that we might ignore.  Not all art is for everyone,  however, I find that as I have gained in age and maturity,  I am able to appreciate the messages of art that I completely missed when I was younger.   Look,  for example,  at Disney productions.  Their films are very accessible to a child – which makes sense because children are their target audience.   However,  the films also appeal to adults,  as they include very subtle humor,  and layers of meaning that speak to issues on the adult level too.   Walt Disney was,  of course,  the child of immigrant parents.   On a broader view…In my life,  I have viewed Kabuki Theatre, films made by foreign immigrants, and a variety of other artistic works that had a different view of reality,  and,  were good for me to see.   As a matter of fact,  the influence of the world on American Arts is pervasive and intimate.  Here is an interesting article that looks in greater detail at these influences.

Immigrants have also brought an amazing work ethic to the country.  We,  who are privileged enough to have been born here,  often compare badly with it.   More on that later…

I am not attempting to claim that immigration is a source of the best of the best,  or that it is totally trouble free.  It is true that along with all the good that has been added to the country by immigrants,  it has brought a few criminals and problems with it.  This is, after all, real life.   Real life means that we will have that close relative that is abusive to their spouse and family;  that are alcoholics;  that are drug dealers or junkies;  that are pedophiles.   However,  that does not mean that every member of the family is evil, and to be ignored or shunned.   All we can do is help the folks with problems overcome their issues,   or bring them to Justice.  In addition…while the politicians really LOVE to scapegoat the immigrant population for crime,  in general,  their comments are lies,  pushed for their own agenda,  not because of any evidence that immigrants are a danger.  Here is a fairly dense, but detailed analysis of the issues of immigrant crime and such.     In short,  it says “We do not know for sure,  because the data are not good.  However, it does appear that at worst the immigrant community has the same percentages of crime as the rest of the country…and may have a LOWER percentage”.
One of the big issues today is the topic of terrorists entering the country via immigration.  This is an amazingly ignorant view.  The fact is that the last time foreign terrorists attacked on American Soil with any success  was 2001/09/11.   And…THOSE 19 guys were in the country legally!   Every so-called terror attack since then has been  executed by natural born citizens, and so would not have been stopped by ANY immigration rules in force.  Again,  I am sorry to say that the appearance is that the claims of immigrants being a danger are nothing more than the mindless racism of a population filled with propaganda based fears.
I believe that the rules for achieving citizenship in this country are profoundly broken and MUST see some radical reform,  if we really want to cut back on the problems.
I am not entirely happy or comfortable with the arbitrary limits for migration from a given country to the United States.   Most of these laws seem more oriented towards ensuring that people of color are kept out,  in preference to White folks.    Also blocked are those people whose beliefs are NOT those of the Fundamentalist “Christian” community.   Our Founding Fathers were Deists, or Agnostics…they were NOT Christians.   The founding principle of America are based on the idea that a diverse society is a strong society,  and that a Theocracy is,  by definition,  a bad thing that will  (sooner rather than later) destroy that society.
For people wanting to become permanent residents of the country,  or naturalized Citizens,   the process is horribly complicated.   It can take decades,  and require the citizen-to-be to expend large amounts of money and time.    I would change this by speeding up the process a bit,  and,  increasing the number of locations where the prospective citizen can go to get their paperwork,  etc,  processed.   More on this later…
We have,  over the decades,  promised tens of thousands of people automatic citizenship if (for example)  they worked with our troops in a war zone,  acting as interpreters and facilitators.   Many people have put themselves in harm’s way to make our soldier’s lives easier and help make sure they came home in a seat and not a coffin.    We have a shameful record of discarding these people like used tissues when we walk away from a war zone.   We did it in Vietnam and every war through today’s excursions in the Middle East.     I would require that we,  as a nation,  live up to our promises.   If we agreed to give citizenship to these people,  they should get their papers,  and be brought to this country.
I mentioned the issue of a work ethic in America…which brings up the  issue of temporary workers.   This is “THE” hot button for a lot of people. We do not have a “Guest Worker” program in America to speak of,  and the only available visas really only benefit  the ultra-rich.   While there are H-1B visas that are used to bring in foreign workers for high-tech jobs,   that is not only a very limited number,  but,  it is often subject to abuse,  turning the workers into indentured servants,   not valuable resources.
I would change the rules so as to make it easier to get a “Guest Worker” visa,  and minimize the cost of that Visa.     By giving these Guest Workers legal status,   we would cut the costs involved in enforcing the complicated laws we have now,  and, would help improve America’s image in the world.  We would help the Guest Workers too,  in that it would stop many of the abusive actions they suffer from now.
Would this take jobs away from Americans?   I rather doubt it.   Most undocumented workers in America are doing the work that Americans will NOT do.    They are spending 12+ hour days out in the fields,  picking produce.   They are working long,  dangerous hours building structures.   They are quietly moving through the halls of hotels,  hospitals and other places,   cleaning the bathrooms,  changing sheets  and ensuring that the place is comfortable and clean for the next resident.     They are doing the hundreds of thousands of hours a year of shit jobs,  for minimum wage or less,  with no benefits,  that Americans will NOT do.    They are trapped in this role because even minimum wage in America is better than they can make in their home country…allowing them to send money home to keep their families alive.    They work under abusive rules and actions because they know that they can be turned over to ICE by their employer…they will be sent back to their home country,  and their employer will not only suffer no penalties,  but, will simply hire another undocumented worker to take their place.
Sorry for the length…if you have hung in there,  but, it is a complicated issue with no simplistic answers (such as are presented by people all the time).
I mentioned,  a bit earlier,  the amount of time it takes to get permanent resident visas for foreigners.   This last Friday,  the president elect signed an Executive Order blocking the entry to the country by citizens from a short list of Middle Eastern countries.  Now,  This has had many,  many bad effects….but, let me tell you about what has happened to one family.
For 14 years,  a fellow named Assali  has been working to get the rest of his family out of Syria.  HERE is the original story –   They are people,  just like you and me.  They are Christians.  They have families that they love and care for.  His father and brother are artisans,  who create beautiful Crosses and chandeliers for churches.   However,  Syria is a war zone,  and they are likely to die every day.  Finally,  though,  he succeeded.  He got all the paperwork done successfully.  He paid all the fees.  He jumped through all the hoops the government puts up to make it harder to emigrate to America as a permanent resident.   His family in Syria sold their home,  shut down their business,  packed up the possessions they did not sell,  and boarded transport to America.   They had already bought a nice, little house with that money,  located just outside Allentown, PA.   However, they were supposed to arrive in America on Friday night.  Friday afternoon, the donald signed his E.O.  which took effect immediately.  So…this family arrived at the airport,  was detained,  and put on a flight back to Syria that night.   Even under the best of circumstances,  it will be 90 days before they can come back and present their VALID paperwork, allowing them to enter the country.   Even under the best of circumstances,  it will cost this family a big chunk of cash to return.  They will have to find a place to stay for 90 days.  They will have to purchase more tickets for the flight.  If they had contracts for work in the United States,  those contracts will be long gone,  so they will have to start over from scratch.  Then,  there is the issue that the president elect has already said that he is going to make the ban on emigration from Syria  permanent!   We,  as a country have screwed this family over,  who played by the rules,  and who were not an enemy.   I hope they are better people than I am,  because if this happened to me,  it would leave a bitter taste in my mouth that would last for a long time.   I would never be able to trust America again.
This is a concrete example from the hundreds of lives which have been turned upside down over the past few days.   It is a stain on what little honor America has left,  and has hurt our standing with billions of people in the world.   the donald is proving again that he is either the most foolish sock puppet to hold the Office,  or he has such terrible judgment,  driven by unending ignorance and prejudice that he is going to destroy America in less than four years.   his decisions have already done damage that will take decades to repair.

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Dealing With the donald Cultists….A Bit of Humor!

Greetings and Salutations;
Well,  the donald cultists cannot get over their humiliating win,   and so continue to attempt to attack anyone they can.   The following example showed up on my FB page earlier today….
Carl Bernstein,  who has just a LITTLE experience dealing with corrupt politicians,   was talking about the donald.   This article ended up on Alternet…which started a lengthy series of comments and threads.
The title of the article is:


Carl Bernstein Nails Trump’s Voter Fraud Quack: ‘This Is the Birther Conspiracy All Over Again’

“The president of the United States has embraced a piece of — it’s worse than fake news.”
Ernie Tubbs Poor ole Carl, he spits out shit when he feels left out.
Louis Westfall Ernie your ignorance would fill a library. You need to get out of your fact free bubble.
Ernie Tubbs Louis Westfall Get a job and go sit on a dildo
Dave Mundt And Louis for the WIN! Ernie, bless his little heart, proves Louis’ point.
Ernie Tubbs Dave Mundt I guess you want me to tell you to go sit on a dildo too. You liberals love to be insulted. How stupid can you get. Has your balls dropped yet?
Dave Mundt Ernie Tubbs Now…your mutt caught the car…YOU WON! Congratulations. Now, stop whining about people that disagree with your views, and move on “making America Great Again”
Dick Thompson That sounds like the Donald…
Dick Thompson Ernie Tubbs yep Trump supporter.
Ernie Tubbs Dick Thompson Who DID you support loser. Funny, they didn’t win.
Greg Cole The Tubb is back off his meds once more. Don’t Feed The Troll.
Dave Mundt Ernie Tubbs Glad to see you have not passed out in an alcoholic haze yet. So…how about replying to the winning comment?
Sadly enough Mr. Tubbs,  who apparently took TWO high schools to get graduated,  and lives in Texas,  shows exactly why the donald is in office.   It is pretty amusing,  and kind of sad that a person obviously old enough to know better,   has such a limited view of reality that he swallows the lies of the Right without choking,  and, apparently even believes that they CARE about him…
God Help Us All
Bee Man Dave

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International Holocaust Day – A Memorial and Contemplation

Greetings and Salutations;

Bergen Belsen
Liberation, 1945

Today,  January 27th,  is International Holocaust Remembrance Day.   Today,  we should spend a moment to cast our minds back to the atrocities that the Third Reich inflicted on  a huge collection of people, focusing on the Jews.   For those of us that SLEPT through History Class,   millions of people,  the good, the bad, the neutral,  were labeled “The Others”.  They were blamed for the economic and social problems of Germany,  in spite of the fact they were innocent of those charges.   They were, after oppression,  and abuse,  swept up,  put in cattle cars, and transported to Concentration camps,  where ALL were starved,  beaten,  and overworked.  

Gas Chamber
Dachau Prison Camp

Many of them were randomly selected and killed,  usually in poison gas chambers.   Then,  their bodies burned to ashes in huge ovens that ran 24 hours a day for years,  and the remains dumped into nearby

Cremation Oven,
Dachau Prison Camp

rivers.  The images that the Allied soldiers saw when the camps were liberated left them with nightmarish trauma that had them waking in a cold sweat for the rest of their lives.

Today,  we should take a moment to contemplate that Evil;  to honor the lives that were taken;  and renew a promise that such a horrendous  event should never sully the face of the Earth again.
That is, at least,  the idealistic goal of this day.   In reality,  though,  we, as a race,  fail to do this.   There are still too many deniers who claim that the story of the Holocaust is a lie,  made up simply to malign the German Nation.   They claim that the images recorded by photographers are faked.   They claim that the numbers quoted about the death toll in the camps are vast exaggerations.   There are many people who say “that was so long ago…and so far away.  It can never happen again”.   Well,  the deniers are wrong.  The facts are there that provide evidence that the events did happen.   In Museums and private collections,  there are still lampshades made from the skin of prisoners with ornate tattoos  and other objects made from the tanned skin of prisoners 
As for the folks that say “It could not happen again”;  that is blind optimism.   People have not changed that much in the past 2000 years,  and the same Evil that brought forth the Nazi Party   still has deep roots in too many minds.   There are too many people who are willfully blind, who would not see it.  There are too many people who chose to do nothing,  in hopes that they will not be touched by it.
Look,  for example,  at the Political situation in America.   We have a president elect who is not only totally unqualified and temperamentally terrible in the Oval office,  but,  is also a person eaten up by Greed, and Hate for anyone that is not an old, Conservative, White guy like him.   He claims he has a mandate for his actions,  in spite of the fact that he took the office through a quirk in our electoral system,  getting some  3 million fewer votes than his opponent.   During the campaign,  he continually used Nazi techniques to vilify his competition.  He made up childish nicknames for them.  He lied about what they believed or would do.  He lied about their record.  Time and time again,  he disrespected women,  people of color,  other nations,  and pretty much ever group that he could,  in order to inflame the emotions of the crowd he was speaking to at the time.   He has perfected the use of Goebbels’ Rule of “The Big Lie” – “Repeat a big enough lie,  often enough,  and it becomes the truth to people”.  
He had no platform of concrete ways to improve the country;  As a matter of fact,  he said time and time again that America is a cesspool of drugs,  thugs and rotting infrastructure.  In spite of this,  his claims on how he was going to fix things consisted of smoke,  mirrors,  and the repetition of the phrase “Trust Me”  Now,  I have heard and seen that sort of nonsense enough times in my life that all kinds of red flags are raised when someone starts using these phrases!  
He is FOR nothing that helps the majority of citizens…but he is AGAINST much that keeps him and his wealthy buddies from draining more money from our pockets.  He continues to refuse to divest himself of his commercial interests,  and has promised to delete 75% of the  regulations that keep  the Oligarchs from raping the Earth in search of the last dollar.
Many of the people that voted for the donald said  “Oh,  he will not do that…he is just exaggerating”.  Well,  look on Social Media!  There are thousands and thousands of posts from his supporters screaming because he is doing exactly what he said he would do…and THEY are being hurt by his actions.   The list of insanely bad decisions he is making and turning into actions through Executive Orders and Memoranda  is growing by leaps and bounds.   They are easily available online through searches…   
Today is Holocaust Memorial Day.  How did the president-elect greet it?   He issued two items of note.
He (or his staff) penned a short comment on the Holocaust.   Here it is in its entirety:  
“It is with a heavy heart and somber mind that we remember and honor the victims, survivors, heroes of the Holocaust. It is impossible to fully fathom the depravity and horror inflicted on innocent people by Nazi terror.
“Yet, we know that in the darkest hours of humanity, light shines the brightest.‎ As we remember those who died, we are deeply grateful to those who risked their lives to save the innocent.
“In the name of the perished, I pledge to do everything in my power throughout my Presidency, and my life, to ensure that the forces of evil never again defeat the powers of good. Together, we will make love and tolerance prevalent throughout the world.”   
Not to be TOO picky,  but hardly mentioning the Jews and other groups murdered by the Nazi Regime in this seems to kind of miss the point.   I read this, and it seems that almost all of it is focused on how great America was at stopping it,   and how WE are going to keep it from happening again.   The irony in this is more of a flood than a drip,  in my opinion,  since his entire campaign and administration has been based on hate for “The Other”  and saying how dangerous “The Other” is for us.
Now,  Compare the donald’s statement with what President Obama said,  just a year ago.
Statement by the President on Holocaust Remembrance Day
Today, on Yom HaShoah, we solemnly remember the six million Jews and the millions of others murdered by the Nazis during the Holocaust.
On this day, we honor the memory of the millions of individuals – the mothers and daughters, fathers and sons, friends and neighbors – who lost their lives during a time of unparalleled depravity and inhumanity.  We reaffirm our ongoing responsibility as citizens and as a nation to live out the admonition, “Never forget. Never again.”  And we commit ourselves to preserving the memories of those who lived through the horrors of the Shoah, so that their experiences are not forgotten by our generation or by our children or grandchildren.
We also honor those who survived the Holocaust, many of them spared from death because of the righteous individuals who risked their lives to save Jews and other victims from Nazi persecution.  The stories of these survivors and their protectors remind us to confront persecution wherever it arises, and that silence can be an accomplice to evil.  They remind us of our duty to counter the rising tide of anti-Semitism, bigotry and hatred that threaten the values we hold dear—pluralism, diversity, and the freedoms of religion and expression.
Today, and every day, we stand in solidarity with the Jewish community both at home and abroad.  We stand with those who are leaving the European cities where they have lived for generations because they no longer feel safe, with the members of institutions that have been attacked because of their Jewish affiliations, and with the college students forced to confront swastikas appearing on their campuses.  And we call upon all people of good will to be vigilant and vocal against every form of bigotry.
When we recognize our interconnectedness and the fundamental dignity and equality of every human being, we help to build a world that is more accepting, secure and free.  This is the best way to honor the legacy we recognize on Yom HaShoah and to fulfill our responsibilities to repair our world from generation to generation.

While it is very true  that there were millions of  OTHER folks  swept up and killed in the Camps,  the Jews were the main focus of the Nazi Party..they were “The Other”.   They were non-white,  they had different beliefs,  and they were such hard workers that they made “normal folks” look bad.  


The donald’s second act today was to issue an Executive Order which bans any person coming from a few,  Middle Eastern Countries from entering the United States.   Here is the text of that Executive Order,

There are several issues with this Executive order  that are designed to make the world less safe for America,  and so fail in its goal.

  • This order takes effect immediately.   This means that people who were flying to the United States are being detained at the airport upon landing,  and either held, or are put back on flights that will return them to their point of Origin in the Middle East.
  • This includes people who have valid visas and other paperwork allowing them to enter the United States.
  • There are reports that this has caused Canadians holding dual citizenship,  in both Canada and one of the countries Listed to be detained and returned to the Middle East.   This is being applied even to people who are simply making a flight change in American Airports.
  • A number of people affected by this are Iraqi translators and facilitators who have worked with American troops for years,  making their life in Iraqi much safer  for both the Americans and the Iraqi civilians.   This is the same foul way we treated the South Vietnamese and Cambodian civilians who helped Americans in that War,  and,  ended up being thrown under the bus when we ran away.  Many of them were killed for their efforts,  and it is likely that many of these Iraqi folks will die,  leaving more blood on our hands.    This also will destroy the trust that America might have for following through on promises in the area.


That having been said…Today,  we remember the Evil that happened in Germany,  and,  with hope,  we believe that today’s efforts to turn the Muslims of the world into “The Other”  will continue to be met with strong resistance.   Do we want to avoid going down in history as the SECOND instance of the Nazis taking over a country?  I,  for one,  do not want America to get that legacy.  We should be better than that.

God Help Us All
Bee Man Dave

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The Storm Is Not Coming…IT IS HERE!

Greetings and Salutations;
We are approaching the end of the first full week of the president-elect’s administration.   Perhaps to the surprise of some,  he is doing exactly what he said he was going to do in the inflamed rhetoric of his campaign.
  1. He has issued an Executive Order that gives the repeal of the ACA a huge step forwards.
  2. He has issued an Executive Order to start construction on the $30 Trillion boondoggle that is the border fence between America and Mexico.
  3. He has appointed a slew of Cabinet members who are totally incompetent at governing;  whose main qualification is that they have given him or his family many,  many millions of dollars; and whose goals are focused on destroying the agency they are in charge of.
  4. He has put a gag order on the EPA,  blocking them from saying ANYTHING to the pubic…this includes social media postings,  scientific reports,  projections of coming events,  etc.  This is also happening with other agencies.   HERE is an article detailing one of those gag orders
  5. He has frozen the hiring of governmental employees.
  6. He has renewed an ancient law that is still on the books that allows him to cut budgets and salaries down to $1.00 if he so desires.
  7. He has moved forwards (again with an Executive Order) to move towards removing the United States from their membership in the United Nations.
There are many more,  equally bad, decisions that he has made, and that have eroded America’s position in the world.
I have,  over the past couple of years,  become convinced that the donald is a sick person who needs a LOT of help…and that he should NOT  be the leader of the Free World.   He exhibits many of the classic symptoms of a person in the early stages of Alzheimer’s.   I say this because he cannot communicate on an adult level;  because he is prone to somewhat demented outbursts;  because he will focus on a meaningless issue and attack over it as if it was World War 3;  because he apparently cannot recall what he has said,  which means he has many recorded instances of telling one lie at noon,  and a second,  contradictory lie  at 1:30…and he will deny he said the first thing at all!  These facts…added to the above list of bad decisions,  and the many other documented failures of judgment are proof enough that he has some serious problems that make him a danger to himself and others.  There are many others that agree with this.  Here, for example,  is a commentary by Keith Olbermann on the topic.
Now..what can be done about this?   At this point in time,  there IS a Constitutional solution to the problem.   The 25th Amendment  states that if the President is unable to perform his duties,  the Vice President and Congress can act to relieve him of the office.   The Vice President then becomes the Acting President until  Congress can Impeach and Remove the President from the office.   Pence is not even my tenth choice for the Leader of the Country.   However,  he would be an improvement over the donald,  mainly because Pence has a rather more limited agenda than the donald.   I am sure that Pence does not want to burn down the house,  with all of us in it.  Rather,  he wants to implement a fanatic Theocracy…and pretty much leave the rest of the society alone.   I suspect we can deal with that,  as a society!
For this to work, though,  it will require the Republicans to come to their senses,  and remember that the Constitution is the head of the Country,  and that their primary loyalty should be to that document and the country…NOT their Party!   After all,  they do swear an oath to uphold the Constitution when they take office!   Will they do this, though?   I have NO confidence that they will.  At this point,  unless I am proven wrong,  I remain convinced that their Party matters more to them than the Constitution and the Country.
The only alternatives I can see to the above course of action are bloody and painful.   We could end up in that Civil War that the donald promised would happen if he did not win.   The last Civil War did not go well for the United States,  and today’s world is far more dangerous than it was in the 1800s.   There are multiple countries out there that would LOVE to see America split, and powerless on the World Stage.  At the least,  we would see them move into the power vacuum left from our distraction.  At worst,  we could see America split up into two or more pieces,  under the control of those countries.
The other alternative is a military coup.  Again,  this would likely not be a clean or violence free event.   Even if the military were to depose the donald and his cultists,  then,  in a year,  step back and respect the democratic process again,  it would leave some serious scars on every one of us citizens.    
So…While I still run into delusional folks that say “give him a chance”,  my reply is “I have,  and those bridges are burned.  I see the future and it makes Orwell’s 1984 look like a paradise!”   I call upon Mike Pence to step up and stop the madness.   Remove the president elect for being too unstable to perform the duties of the office.  Get him the help he needs to hang onto what ever amount of sanity he has left.   Halt and re-consider the Cabinet appointees,  and put in people who are knowledgeable and able to run the agencies and improve them.    I call on Congress to Impeach the donald and remove him from office as quickly as possible,  as he is a danger not only to America and its way of life,  but to the entire world.
God Help Us All
Bee Man Dave

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Interacting With Trump Supporters

Greetings and Salutations;

Well,   I just finished an interesting interaction with a couple of Trump Supporters,  that kind of covers the entire spectrum of their attitudes.   JSM  is an old   friend of the family.   CM  lives in a small city near me.   I offer the unedited conversation for your amusement (or whatever).

(The comment attached to the above picture was denigrating,  and implied that the protestors were simply being thoughtless at discarding their signs.)


Dave Mundt: These are on the sidewalk outside the donald’s hotel. So, I fully support this action.

 JSM: Yeah,you would

 JSM: &it’s still called “littering”!

 Dave Mundt: Protests are rarely neat and proper. That is kind of the  whole PURPOSE of protest. I am fairly sure, though that there were curators from the Smithsonian out there, collecting a bunch of these signs for a future exhibit..

 CM: So dave was your mom marching?

 Dave Mundt: If she had not been dead for 30 years, yes…she would have been there.

 CM: So she didnt want you then ?

 CM: You need to really dig deep do research o this so called womens march and see what the founder stood for

 Dave Mundt: What? are you delusional? What does a march for keeping the things that make America great today have to do with my birth?

Please read this blog entry I just put up…and learn something.…/the-womans-march-what-it-said…/

Also, why do youcall it a “so-called woman’s march”. Are you just being paternalistic, and denigrating women? It was a protest created by women, and organized by women. There were men involved too…but only because we support the truth they were speaking.

CM: Research the founder she was a racist

 Dave Mundt: CM: Tell you what…YOU are making the claim, so YOU provide some links to reliable sources that prove your claim.

It is a fact that the Woman’s Movement has had problems with race, mainly because it was started by white women, and, they were so focused on the issues affecting women that they failed to reach out to women of color.That, as with all sane movements, is changing.

Race And Feminism: Women’s March Recalls The Touchy History

 CM: Jus read her own work is all you hafta do in her own words the women arent out of any rights nothing has been took from them their marching for taxpayers to pay for their own fuck ups in their own life why should i pay for the meds or abortions get a job pay for the shit its that easy you dont pay my bills or for any of my things why should you thiers?

 Dave Mundt: CM: Ok…I will type slowly. There are several co-founders of the Woman’s March. WHICH ONE are you talking about? Also…where are those links?

CM: Pick one they all the same and fuck off dont need you to talk slow do you need a pacifier while you do your research

 Dave Mundt: CM: Young man…now you are just generalizing and thereby demonstrating your lack of education. If you insist on that being true, then, it is JUST as true that YOU are a White Supremacist,homophobic, hate-filled murderer. After all, you are a young, white male…just like D. Roof, and the members of Westboro Baptist.

CM: Enjoy your watching but see your the type that still wont admit your wrong or that what the movement stands for is bogus . And call me what you want think what yu want bout me im telling b4 you start with the libtard agenda and propaganda do a lil research not every march or protest is a good one most these women dont even know why or what they are marching for they are just there

The donald cultists are a perfect example of why America REALLY needs to work on its educational system.   They are also an indictment of the Church in America,  which allows this kind of hatred, and non-Christ-Like speech and actions to be “OK”.


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The Woman’s March; What It Said To Me

Greetings and Salutations;
Some time before the inauguration,  plans grew to hold a Woman’s March in protest against the new administration,  on the  21st of January.   This idea really caught on,  not only in the United States,  but all around the world.  So…yesterday,  many,  many cities saw a large collection of Women and Men,  marching in protest,  and making their view of the future be known.   The original march was arranged for Washington D. C.  but, the movement grew so huge that even in Knoxville,  Tennessee,  we saw several thousand people come out and participate in the event   Here are a few pictures – and there are MANY more online.

Woman’s March In Washington, D. C.

Woman’s March In Denver

Woman’s March In Paris

Woman’s March In Los Angeles

Women’s March Protest signs left outside the donald’s hotel in Washington, D. C.

The protests throughout the country and the world  exhibited support for the best spirits of the principles of Non-Violence, as practiced by Martin Luther King, Jr.  and other great people over the years

.   In spite of the fact that (just in the United States)  millions of people came together,  there were nearly no examples of violence.  There was a great feeling of strength and solidarity that, hopefully,  will sustain us against the open Evil that is infecting America and will be with us for some time into the future.

     As a final point,  many of the protestors left their signs outside the donald’s hotel on Pennsylvania Avenue!

Ever since the Election,   when I have been on Social Media,  or watching the news interviewing donald cultists,   I have heard some very consistent messages.   I am told “You lost!  He Won!”,  “You people who hate America are DONE!”,  “Get Over it!”, “You is time to support your President”, and “Stop whining and trying to tear his administration down…you lost!”  by the folks that voted for the donald.   I,  and the many folks like me,  are not treated like opponents, with valid, if different values.  Rather we are treated as if we hate America,  and are the enemy!  I have tried to speak to these sad comments with various arguments,  but,  without success.   Finally though,  a woman being interviewed as part of the protest yesterday  wrapped it up in a strong, and positive package, making a remark that really resonated with me, and, has become my rallying cry for the next few years.
She said
“I am not protesting AGAINST anything. I am protesting FOR the things that make America truly great”.
We,  who disagree with the terrible plans that the Republicans have to burn down the country and destroy as many of the advances our society has made in the past 50 years,  need to cling to this statement.  We can use it to remind us that we may not be perfect,  but,  our goals are to help and support ALL Americans…not just the privileged few.  We can draw strength from it when it seems the battle is overwhelming…and use that strength to pick ourselves up and do more to keep America great,  and support those things that make it so.

UPDATE:    Today,   I ran across this graphic,  created by Google,  which shows the locations of all the Marches in the United States.  I assume the data was gathered from searches and results…  The size of an  orange circle is proportional to the number of people taking part in the March!   There were very few states that did not have a March…   The last numbers I heard were that there were around 600 events,  and over 4 million people taking part in them.
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Sifting Through The Ashes, Part Twelve – The Power has been Transferred

Greetings and Salutations;
At Noon today,  the deed was done.  President-Elect donald was sworn into the office.    This inauguration has been a reflection of the campaign and election.   For example,  the CLAIMS presented by the Donald, and his cultists over the past week or two,  were that D.C. was going to be over-run with his voters, that there were a million “Bikers for Trump” that were going to show up and stand on the parade route,  forming a “wall of meat”  (and yes,  that WAS what they said)  to keep the dozen or so protestors away from the Donald  and that it was going to be the most amazing inauguration that has been seen in the Nation’s Capital.
Well,  to no one’s surprise,  things did not quite work out that way.   Last week,  reports started circulating that no one was buying tickets to the events.  So…the Republicans started giving them away.   Still…almost no one was taking them.   At least one reliable source reported that several people had been offered cash to hire  folks to get them into the seats.   Now,  that may or may not be true…however, it is a fact that the donald took out paid ads on FaceBook and other Social Media,  begging people to come to the event!  What, then,  did the Mall look like when the Donald took the oath?   Here is a aerial picture from about the same location,  showing the Mall and the crowds in 2009 when Pres. Obama was inaugurated,  and in 2017,  for the donald’s ceremony.  See any difference?
 Now,  Just in case  y’all think this is faked, or an unusual thing….Here are  a couple if images  of the Parade after the swearing in.
After the ceremony,  the Donald read his first speech in the Office.   Now,  the sad thing was that it was, basically a clone of talking points from his campaign speeches.   While he did talk a bit about America coming together and such…it is hard to look at a speech involving a raised fist and think of eliminating division in the country,  and,  getting us to play nice together.

Image Source: Politico

Also,  not only did he slag America again, with the old themes of how it was falling apart, and overrun with drug dealers and thugs,  but,  he said, in no uncertain terms,  that from now on…it was “America First”  in any interactions with the rest of the world…Foreign Policy,  working with companies,  etc.   He also said that the Military was a shambles as it had no money and he was going to really fund it.    Talk about winning friends and influencing people!   Listening to the BBC in the afternoon,  I heard several allies speaking with concern about how this sort of rhetoric and attitude was going to change their relationship with America.   I hope that someone sane sits the Donald down and explains to him that we are FAR from powerful enough to be able to bully the entire world around without there being serious consequences for the country!    America has flirted with Isolationism in the past,  and it has never ended well.
I am reminded of an old saying that has been a part of my life for decades – “An elephant can kill five men in a heartbeat…but a swarm of Army Ants will kill the elephant and not even slow down”.   We might be able to take on ONE or TWO countries,  but if a majority of the countries present a united front,  America will be gone in a few months.
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Sifting Through The Ashes, Part Eleven – Should we Change to Survive? If So, What To Do?

Greetings and Salutations;

Well,  one never knows when an interesting topic will pop up.   An acquaintance of mine posted a rather thoughtful post on Facebook a bit ago.  Dealing with the train wreck of America over the past 18 months,  it raises some good points.   So,  of course,   I got to thinking about it and discovered that I had more to say than a Face Book posting should have…So…Here we go.  The original topic was on a post about Rick Perry being appointed by the President-Elect to the Cabinet position over the Department of Energy.   The original article was pointed out the fact that the D.O.E.  does not just deal with oil and such,  but has charge of our Nuclear resources…including the weapons.    Since Mr. Perry is (like all the Cabinet appointees)  singularly unqualified for running this agency,  there are a number of people who are concerned about the next four years.


The original comment was this:

Is there no handbook explaining that cronies are supposed to be given jobs as ambassadors to some small tropical or interesting country? And, NOT cabinet positions. Cabinet positions actually require important work.

Ideally we would create some number of official do nothing jobs to fill with friends and donors of the President.

I just learned that Parliament chooses the secretaries filling the cabinet positions in the UK. The Prime Minister is the appointed presiding officer of the cabinet but does not have any official hire / fire role for other cabinet members. As a matter of practice they do have a large influence. Of course, the Prime Minister choice is also driven by Parliament. As a formal matter they serve at the pleasure of the King or Queen. As a practical matter the ruler takes direction from the Parliament on choice of Prime Minister. To do otherwise may be a good way to end the monarchy.

 I’m a fan of the Parliamentary system since the President or Prime Minister is then more aligned with Parliament so as to get something done. Reducing the power of the President to be more in line with the UK Prime Minister seems like a good idea. I really like cabinet members being more like peers with the President too.

 I find it ironic to think the founders worked to ensure the USA did not have a monarchy. But, in modern times monarchs of major world powers have mostly taken symbolic roles (still important). The USA has a President who wields more power than monarchs and Prime Ministers not just because the USA is a great power, but because our structure of government. We may not call our President ruler or king but they may as well be.

 It’s about time for a 2nd Constitutional Convention to fix some of these issues.


And my commentary on it is this:

Interesting points.

I tend to agree with the first couple of paragraphs.   In the past,   this has resulted in folks being appointed to ambassador to Monaco, and such.   I would be all for that.    In a perfect world,  cronyism would not happen…but, as we all learn early on in life…the world is far from perfect.

One of the few good things about the past few months is that it has given me a LOT of topics to discuss in my blog.   I touched on ways to change our Federal Government without the pain of a Constitutional Convention   in THIS entry –

However,  I am also of the opinion that changing the political process will not address the root problems with America.   I see some major issues that will have to be addressed before our Government,  and our Nation,  will turn back towards a more positive path for the country.

1)  The Extremest elements in Congress will have to be voted out and replaced with more moderate views.  I am fine with having at least two parties represented,  as a diversity of views is the ONLY chance we have of finding the best path for the country.   However,  alas,  since before Bill Clinton  almost everyone has evolved to a view that the other side are foul demons from the depths of Hell.   They are not Opponents with differing views…but Enemies who must be destroyed before they destroy US.    This has, among other things, resulted in a Balkanization of Congress, eroding the concepts of civil discourse and compromise.  This has brought us to the point that the attitude of almost all (Elected officials and Voters) is  “Our Way Or The Highway”.    The Left-Wingers are not without sin here,  but, the Right-Wing is FAR more fanatical about this and has proved it time and time again.   For example…Look at the way they dealt with the ACA.  Not only were there huge delays in the process of getting it to a vote,  but,  in the process, it was stripped of so many of its provisions, leaving but a skeleton of what it started as.   President Obama had a pretty great bill to start with.  Yet,  for a variety of reasons,  the Republicans refused to negotiate on a fair basis.  It was “our way or nothing”.  What finally got passed was a great improvement,  but, it was far from what could have been, and, its gutting has left us with problems that still affect all citizens.

Merrick Garland
Supreme Court Justice
nominee ignored by Congress

The other example I submit is the Confirmation of a replacement Supreme Court Justice.   It has been 11 months that the appointment of Merrick Garland as a replacement Justice.   This has been blocked by Congress and allowed NO movement.  This is an UNHEARD of length of time that has hurt the court’s ability to rule,  and by extension,  damaged the country.   This blocking happened  in spite of the fact that Pres. Obama’s choice IS a moderate,  who (supposedly) everyone respected and has a strong reputation as a good Judge.   He would have likely been an excellent Justice.  Yet,  the Congress not only refused to confirm him,  but, they would not even give him a hearing to examine his qualifications.  Now,  in my view,  this was one example of many of the Republicans in Congress failing to govern, and failing to do their appointed job.  The unreasoning hatred that the Republicans in Congress have for President Obama and the Democrats  ensured that they ignore what is best for the country,  and instead do what they think is best for their Party.

2) The education of the population in general, and the Voting Public in specific needs to be addressed.   the President-Elect did not win on rational debate,  nor a solid,  well thought out platform, nor, even,  a respect for his character.   He took the Office because he used inflammatory speech to dizzy and enrage his followers,  to the point of being a lynch mob…not a group that should be electing a President.   He also used the weaknesses of our Electoral System  to take enough Electoral College Votes.  He based his campaign on name calling and lies that would embarrass five year old children spatting on a playground.    Finally,  he had the help of America’s opponents who worked to spread lies and evil stories about his opponent,  so as to undercut  her reputation, creating mindless distrust.

These factors worked with the fact that (as with Congress),  too many Americans have developed Extremest views.   They have been failed by our educational system,  which has not taught them the concepts of skeptical thinking,  and using library skills to verify the truth of the statements made by a politician.    The system has failed to teach them the concepts of civil discourse,  examining facts, and being OK with changing one’s belief as one learns more about an issue.   

Their parents and whatever source of ethics they grew up with (church,  etc)  have failed to instill a sense of tolerance for others and their views.  This means that instead of respecting those people,  we look upon them as ENEMIES to be destroyed.    It has left us so limited in our view of reality and strength of character  that while we may not BE  misogynistic,  racist,  abusive, greed driven people  for whom lying is such second nature that we have to WORK to tell the truth,   those traits are not a deal breaker because we have convinced ourselves that the ONE issue we believe the candidate will go our way on  overrides everything else.

3)  The erosion of the roll the Electoral College plays in our system.  It has moved  too far from Hamilton’s view of its role in the process.   In has become a rubber stamp, constrained by (possibly  unconstitutional) state laws, and political agendas, moving far from its original role as a firewall to keep a demagogue from using smoke and mirrors to take power in our country.  I write at more detail on this in this blog post –  And in this post – Note that these posts also touch on whether we should have to hold a Constitutional Convention or not.  I believe that it would not be necessary if the state laws were repealed and the other changes I mention implemented.

Now…what can we,  as Citizens who love our Country, what can we we do to keep the events of the day being such a train wreck that America will end up a smoking pile of debris on the great path of history?   I suggest that here are some steps we can take.

First off…it is vital that we ALL become more politically active.  At the very least,  make a point to go to the polls on the coming election days and cast a vote for the candidates that reflect your views.   A step up would be to keep an eye on what your Representatives are doing,  and give them feedback.   If you follow me on Face Book,  you will likely have seen this post:

Understand that anyone that tells you that a communication from you as a Constituent, to your Representative is a waste of time, because the politicians only pay attention to the lobbyists that write them the big checks,  is lying to you.  They are likely fearful that if you DO contact your Representative,  it will destroy their chances for some big score from the Government.

Now…to help change your government and what it is doing,  there are some simple things to do.

1) Use this tool – to track down YOUR Representatives. 

2) Email or call them to let them know your objection or support for the item of interest. When you do this,  be SURE to follow these guidelines:

…..a) Be Clear about what you are talking about.

…..b) Do not write a lengthy, emotional rant.  Be polite, and simply tell them whether you support or oppose the issue,  and give them a single reason why you feel that way.

…..c) Repeat as necessary.

 CLING to the basic truth that “All that Evil needs to succeed is for good people to do nothing”  and use that as motivation.

 Your Elected officials pay attention when 10,000 emails show up.   They pay attention when thousands of constituents call them up.  Why?  Well, it is fairly simple.  They like their jobs!  They know that the folks that are contacting them are the voters that care and are paying attention to what they are doing.  They are also the people that can vote for someone else if they are sufficiently unhappy with the job the incumbent is doing.

 Politicians might ignore a petition with 10,000 signatures, but, 10,000 emails, phone calls,  or snail mail notes make a big impact and will get their attention.

 While the above post focuses on the Federal level,  your state and local governments work the same way.  It is quite easy to get Email addresses for these politicians by using search engines.  Take the same sorts of actions mentioned above with your local government.   While the Federal levels make decisions that WILL affect you,  your local governments take actions that may well affect you sooner, and in more profound ways.


Then,  contribute to the candidates who represent your views.  Small donations are meaningful;  time spent volunteering is meaningful;  talking with folks about the views of your candidate and why you support them is meaningful.    Finally,   consider running for office.   There are no better ways to get what you want done, than to do it yourself.


Educate yourself and others.   Support your school systems,  and push them to teach your children the vital skills of life I mentioned above.   As for y’all…It is NEVER too late to learn something new.  There are online courses available that are self-paced,  and cover many of these topics.  Most,  if not all of them,  are free too.   Then,  there is the alternative of Community College.  There are excellent,  small Colleges out there that can help us learn new things and they are not scarily expensive.   Finally,  when online…read and consider the alternative views out there.   We all see things differently.   Now,  this is the Net,  so, alas,  it is likely that you will encounter a lot of folks who are closed minded,  and have no valid arguments,  so resort to name calling,  and denigrating language.  That is sad for them,  but, I simply state the truth,  and move on.  Speaking of the truth…the Net is a complicated and deep Cyber-Ocean that contains truth and lies.  When reading a web site,  be aware of this, and make sure that any claims are backed up with evidence from reliable sources,  and, that you can find at least two independent sources that provide that evidence.   Also,  read some of the other articles and see if they pass the smell test.   If they seem kind of crazy…perhaps everything on the site is without basis.


Work to be tolerant.  Try not to immediately reject another person completely because they have different views.  Consider the points they are making,  even if they disagree with yours.   However,  be strong in your beliefs, and if a person is being hateful, or basing their opinions on lies,  do not put up with it.  In a case like that,  I will simply state the truth, and move on.  Which,  gets us back to the candidate question…I submit that if a candidate has many  negative,  abusive,  hateful traits,   even if they guarantee milk and honey will flow through the streets…reject them and DO not be sucked in by their lies.


The next few years are going to be a challenge for America.   How we survive as a country will depend a great deal on how we, as individual citizens,  react to the events that will happen.   Will we throw up our hands,  and walk through, staring at our Smart Phones and fuming on Facebook and other social media  until we fall into a cesspool and drown?   Will we end up a fanatical Theocracy that oppresses people whose life does not match ours?   Will we live strong,  and oppose the flood of Darkness and Evil that is coming?   The answer to these questions depend on US as individual Citizens of what COULD be the greatest Country On Earth.

One day to go.

God Help Us All

Bee Man Dave


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A Time to Pause; A time to Assess: Martin Luther King – Letter from a Birmingham Jail.

Greetings and Salutations;

The speech I posted about yesterday was hardly the last important legacy left us by Dr. King.    He had  seen a document,  decrying his activities,  and signed by a number of Religious Leaders.   While he was in Jail in Birmingham,  after being arrested for another peaceful protest,   he decided to address the issues raised by this critical level.   In the process,  he created a very clear,  very important document that speaks to the need to stand up against Evil,  and why his protests were righteous.   So…Dr. King sat down in his small,  concrete cell,  and penned the following letter.
It strikes me that,  upon reading it again today,  that it is somewhat chillingly sad that so much of it is still relevant today,  some 53 years plus after it was originally penned.    It seems that we should have progressed a lot further by now.   I hope that y’all read this…think about it…and use it as a guide for your actions and speech in the coming years.

“”Letter from a Birmingham Jail [King, Jr.]”

16 April 1963

My Dear Fellow Clergymen:

While confined here in the Birmingham city jail, I came across your recent statement callingmy present activities “unwise and untimely.” Seldom do I pause to answer criticism of my work and ideas. If I sought to answer all the criticisms that cross my desk, my secretaries would have little time for anything other than such correspondence in the course of the day, and I would have no time for constructive work. But since I feel that you are men of genuine good will and that your criticisms are sincerely set forth, I want to try to answer your statement in what I hope will be patient and reasonable terms.

I think I should indicate why I am here in Birmingham, since you have been influenced by the view which argues against “outsiders coming in.” I have the honor of serving as president of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, an organization operating in every southern state, with headquarters in Atlanta, Georgia. We have some eighty five affiliated organizations across the South,and one of them is the Alabama Christian Movement for Human Rights. Frequently we share staff, educational and financial resources with our affiliates. Several months ago the affiliate here in Birmingham asked us to be on call to engage in a nonviolent direct action program if such were deemed necessary. We readily consented, and when the hour came we lived up to our promise.So I,along with several members of my staff, am here because I was invited here. I am here because I have organizational ties here.

But more basically, I am in Birmingham because injustice is here. Just as the prophets of the eighth century B.C. left their villages and carried their “thus saith the Lord” far beyond the boundaries of their home towns, and just as the Apostle Paul left his village of Tarsus and carried the gospel of Jesus Christ to the far corners of the Greco Roman world, so am I compelled to carry the gospel of freedom beyond my own home town. Like Paul, I must constantly respond to the Macedonian call for aid.

Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states. I cannot sit idly by in Atlanta and not be concerned about what happens in Birmingham. Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial “outside agitator” idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds.

You deplore the demonstrations taking place in Birmingham. But your statement, I am sorry to say, fails to express a similar concern for the conditions that brought about the demonstrations. I am sure that none of you would want to rest content with the superficial kind of social analysis that deals merely with effects and does not grapple with underlying causes. It is unfortunate that demonstrations are taking place in Birmingham, but it is even more unfortunate that the city’s white power structure left the Negro community with no alternative.

In any nonviolent campaign there are four basic steps: collection of the facts to determine whether injustices exist; negotiation; self purification; and direct action. We have gone through all these steps in Birmingham. There can be no gainsaying the fact that racial injustice engulfs this community. Birmingham is probably the most thoroughly segregated city in the United States. Its ugly record of brutality is widely known. Negroes have experienced grossly unjust treatment in the courts.There have been more unsolved bombings of Negro homes and churches in Birmingham than in any other city in the nation. These are the hard, brutal facts of the case. On the basis of these conditions,Negro leaders sought to negotiate with the city fathers. But the latter consistently refused to engage in good faith negotiation.

Then, last September, came the opportunity to talk with leaders of Birmingham’s economic community. In the course of the negotiations, certain promises were made by the merchants–for example, to remove the stores’ humiliating racial signs. On the basis of these promises,the Reverend Fred Shuttlesworth and the leaders of the Alabama Christian Movement for Human Rights agreed to a moratorium on all demonstrations. As the weeks and months went by, we realized that we were the victims of a broken promise. A few signs, briefly removed, returned; the others remained.As in so many past experiences, our hopes had been blasted, and the shadow of deep disappointment settled upon us. We had no alternative except to prepare for direct action,where bywe would present our very bodies as a means of laying our case before the conscience of the local and the national community. Mindful of the difficulties involved, we decided to undertake a process of self purification. We began a series of workshops on nonviolence, and we repeatedly asked ourselves: “Are you able to accept blows without retaliating?” “Are you able to endure the ordeal of jail?” We decided to schedule our direct action program for the Easter season, realizing that except for Christmas, this is the main shopping period of the year. Knowing that a strong economic-withdrawal program would be the by product of direct action, we felt that this would be the best time to bring pressure to bear on the merchants for the needed change.

Then it occurred to us that Birmingham’s mayoral election was coming up in March, and we speedily decided to postpone action until after election day. When we discovered that the Commissioner of Public Safety, Eugene “Bull” Connor, had piled up enough votes to be in the run off,we decided again to postpone action until the day after the run off so that the demonstrations could not be used to cloud the issues. Like many others, we waited to see Mr. Connor defeated,and to this end we endured postponement after postponement. Having aided in this community need, we felt hat our direct action program could be delayed no longer.

You may well ask: “Why direct action? Why sit ins, marches and so forth? Isn’t negotiation abetter path?” You are quite right in calling for negotiation. Indeed, this is the very purpose of direct action. Nonviolent direct action seeks to create such a crisis and foster such a tension that a community which has constantly refused to negotiate is forced to confront the issue. It seeks so to dramatize the issue that it can no longer be ignored. My citing the creation of tension as part of the work of the nonviolent resister may sound rather shocking. But I must confess that I am not afraid of the word “tension.” I have earnestly opposed violent tension, but there is a type of constructive,nonviolent tension which is necessary for growth. Just as Socrates felt that it was necessary to create a tension in the mind so that individuals could rise from the bondage of myths and half truths to the unfettered realm of creative analysis and objective appraisal, so must we see the need for nonviolent gadflies to create the kind of tension in society that will help men rise from the dark depths of prejudice and racism to the majestic heights of understanding and brotherhood.The purpose of our direct action program is to create a situation so crisis packed that it will inevitably open the door to negotiation. I therefore concur with you in your call for negotiation. Too long has our beloved South land been bogged down in a tragic effort to live in monologue rather than dialogue.

One of the basic points in your statement is that the action that I and my associates have taken in Birmingham is untimely. Some have asked: “Why didn’t you give the new city administration time to act?” The only answer that I can give to this query is that the new Birmingham administration must be prodded about as much as the outgoing one, before it will act. We are sadly mistaken if we feel that the election of Albert Bout well as mayor will bring the millennium to Birmingham. While Mr.Boutwell is a much more gentle person than Mr. Connor, they are both segregationists,dedicated to maintenance of the status quo. I have hope that Mr. Boutwell will be reasonable enough to see the futility of massive resistance to desegregation. But he will not see this without pressure from devotees of civil rights. My friends, I must say to you that we have not made a single gain in civil rights without determined legal and nonviolent pressure. Lamentably, it is an historical fact that privileged groups seldom give up their privileges voluntarily. Individuals may see the moral light and voluntarily give up their unjust posture; but, as Reinhold Niebuhr has reminded us, groups tend to be more immoral than individuals.

We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor;it must be demanded by the oppressed. Frankly, I have yet to engage in a direct action campaign that was “well timed” in the view of those who have not suffered unduly from the disease of segregation.For years now I have heard the word “Wait!” It rings in the ear of every Negro with piercing familiarity.This “Wait” has almost always meant “Never.” We must come to see, with one of our distinguished jurists, that “justice too long delayed is justice denied.”

We have waited for more than 340 years for our constitutional and God given rights. The nations of Asia and Africa are moving with jetlike speed toward gaining political independence, but we still creep at horse and buggy pace toward gaining a cup of coffee at a lunch counter.Perhaps it is easy for those who have never felt the stinging darts of segregation to say, “Wait.” But when you have seen vicious mobs lynch your mothers and fathers at will and drown your sisters and brothers at whim;when you have seen hate filled policemen curse, kick and even kill your black brothers and sisters;when you see the vast majority of your twenty million Negro brothers smothering in an airtight cage of poverty in the midst of an affluent society; when you suddenly find your tongue twisted and your speech stammering as you seek to explain to your six year old daughter why she can’t go to the public amusement park that has just been advertised on television, and see tears welling up in her eyes when she is told that Funtown is closed to colored children, and see ominous clouds of inferiority beginning to form in her little mental sky, and see her beginning to distort her personality by developing an unconscious bitterness toward white people; when you have to concoct an answer for a five year old son who is asking: “Daddy, why do white people treat colored people so mean?”; when you take across county drive and find it necessary to sleep night after night in the uncomfortable corners of your automobile because no motel will accept you; when you are humiliated day in and day out by nagging signs reading “white” and “colored”; when your first name becomes “nigger,” your middlename becomes “boy” (however old you are) and your last name becomes “John,” and your wife and mother are never given the respected title “Mrs.”; when you are harried by day and haunted by night by the fact that you are a Negro, living constantly at tiptoe stance, never quite knowing what to expect next, and are plagued with inner fears and outer resentments; when you are forever fighting a degenerating sense of “nobodiness”–then you will understand why we find it difficult to wait. There comes a time when the cup of endurance runs over, and men are no longer willing to be plunged into the abyss of despair. I hope, sirs, you can understand our legitimate and unavoidable impatience.You express a great deal of anxiety over our willingness to break laws. This is certainly a legitimate concern. Since we so diligently urge people to obey the Supreme Court’s decision of 1954 outlawing segregation in the public schools, at first glance it may seem rather paradoxical for us consciously to break laws. One may well ask: “How can you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others?” The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws: just and unjust. I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws. One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws.Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. I would agree with St.Augustine hat “an unjust law is no law at all.”

Now, what is the difference between the two? How does one determine whether a law is just or unjust? A just law is a man made code that squares with the moral law or the law of God. An unjust law is a code that is out of harmony with the moral law. To put it in the terms of St.Thomas Aquinas:An unjust law is a human law that is not rooted in eternal law and natural law. Any law that uplifts human personality is just. Any law that degrades human personality is unjust. All segregation statutes are unjust because segregation distorts the soul and damages the personality. It gives the segregatora false sense of superiority and the segregated a false sense of inferiority. Segregation,to use the terminology of the Jewish philosopher Martin Buber, substitutes an “I it” relationship for an “I thou”relationship and ends up relegating persons to the status of things. Hence segregation is not only politically, economically and sociologically unsound, it is morally wrong and sinful. Paul Tillich has said that sin is separation. Is not segregation an existential expression of man’s tragic separation, his awful estrangement, his terrible sinfulness? Thus it is that I can urge men to obey the 1954decision of the Supreme Court, for it is morally right; and I can urge them to disobey segregation ordinances, for they are morally wrong.

Let us consider a more concrete example of just and unjust laws. An unjust law is a code that a numerical or power majority group compels a minority group to obey but does not make binding on itself. This is difference made legal. By the same token, a just law is a code that a majority compels a minority to follow and that it is willing to follow itself. This is sameness made legal.Let me give another explanation. A law is unjust if it is inflicted on a minority that, as a result of being denied the right to vote, had no part in enacting or devising the law. Who can say that the legislature of Alabama which set up that state’s segregation laws was democratically elected? Throughout Alabama all sorts of devious methods are used to prevent Negroes from becoming registered voters, and there are some counties in which, even though Negroes constitute a majority of the population, not a single Negro is registered. Can any law enacted under such circumstances be considered democratically structured?

Sometimes a law is just on its face and unjust in its application. For instance, I have been arrested on a charge of parading without a permit. Now, there is nothing wrong in having an ordinance which requires a permit for a parade. But such an ordinance becomes unjust when it is used to maintain segregation and to deny citizens the First-Amendment privilege of peaceful assembly and protest.

I hope you are able to see the distinction I am trying to point out. In no sense do I advocate evading or defying the law, as would the rabid segregationist. That would lead to anarchy.One who breaks an unjust law must do so openly, lovingly, and with a willingness to accept the penalty. I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law.

Of course, there is nothing new about this kind of civil disobedience. It was evidenced sublimely in the refusal of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego to obey the laws of Nebuchadnezzar, on the ground that a higher moral law was at stake. It was practiced superbly by the early Christians, who were willing to face hungry lions and the excruciating pain of chopping blocks rather than submit to certain unjust laws of the Roman Empire. To a degree, academic freedom is a reality today because Socrates practiced civil disobedience. In our own nation, the Boston Tea Party represented a massive act of civil disobedience.

We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was “legal” and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters did in Hungary was “illegal.” It was “illegal” to aid and comfort a Jew in Hitler’s Germany. Even so, I am sure that, had I lived in Germany at the time, I would have aided and comforted my Jewish brothers. If today I lived in a Communist country where certain principles dear to the Christian faith are suppressed, I would openly advocate disobeying that country’s antireligious laws.

I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I mus confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding frompeople of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will.  Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice and that when they fail in this purpose they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress. I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that the present tension in the South is a necessary phase of the transition from an obnoxious negative peace, in which the Negro passively accepted his unjust plight, to a substantive and positive peace, in which all men will respect the dignity and worth of human personality. Actually,we who engage in nonviolent direct action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive. We bring it out in the open, where it can be seen and dealt with. Like a boil that can never be cured so long as it is covered up but must be opened with all its ugliness to the natural medicines of air and light, injustice must be exposed, with all the tension its exposure creates, to the light of human conscience and the air of national opinion before it can be cured.

In your statement you assert that our actions, even though peaceful, must be condemned because they precipitate violence. But is this a logical assertion? Isn’t this like condemning a robbed man because his possession of money precipitated the evil act of robbery? Isn’t this like condemning Socrates because his unswerving commitment to truth and his philosophical inquiries precipitated the act by the misguided populace in which they made him drink hemlock? Isn’t this like condemning Jesus because his unique God consciousness and never ceasing devotion to God’s will precipitated the evil act of crucifixion? We must come to see that, as the federal courts have Consistently affirmed,it is wrong to urge an individual to cease his efforts to gain his basic constitutional rights because the quest may precipitate violence. Society must protect the robbed and punish the robber.I had also hoped that the white moderate would reject the myth concerning time in relation to the struggle for freedom. I have just received a letter from a white brother in Texas. He writes: “All Christians know that the colored people will receive equal rights eventually, but it is possible that you are in too great a religious hurry. It has taken Christianity almost two thousand years to accomplish what it has. The teachings of Christ take time to come to earth.” Such an attitude stems  from a tragic misconception of time, from the strangely irrational notion that there is something in the very flow of time that will inevitably cure all ills. Actually, time itself is neutral; it can be used either destructively or constructively. More and more I feel that the people of ill will have used time much more effectively than have the people of good will. We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the hateful words and actions of the bad people but for the appalling silence of the good people.Human progress never rolls in on wheels of inevitability; it comes through the tireless efforts of men willing to be co workers with God, and without this hard work, time itself becomes an ally of the forces of social stagnation. We must use time creatively, in the knowledge that the time is always ripe to do right.Now is the time to make real the promise of democracy and transform our pending national elegy into a creative psalm of brotherhood. Now is the time to lift our national policy from the quicksand of racial injustice to the solid rock of human dignity.

You speak of our activity in Birmingham as extreme. At first I was rather disappointed that fellow clergymen would see my nonviolent efforts as those of an extremist. I began thinking about the fact that I stand in the middle of two opposing forces in the Negro community. One is a force of complacency, made up in part of Negroes who, as a result of long years of oppression, are so drained of self respect and a sense of “somebodiness” that they have adjusted to segregation; and in part of a few middle-class Negroes who, because of a degree of academic and economic security and because in some ways they profit by segregation, have become insensitive to the problems of the masses. The other force is one of bitterness and hatred, and it comes perilously close to advocating violence. It is expressed in the various black nationalist groups that are springing up across the nation,the largest and best known being Elijah Muhammad’s Muslim movement. Nourished by the Negro’s frustration over the continued existence of racial discrimination, this movement is made up of people who have lost faith in America, who have absolutely repudiated Christianity, and who have concluded that the white man is an incorrigible “devil.”

I have tried to stand between these two forces, saying that we need emulate neither the”donothingism” of the complacent nor the hatred and despair of the black nationalist. For there is the more excellent way of love and nonviolent protest. I am grateful to God that, through the influence of the Negro church, the way of nonviolence became an integral part of our struggle.If this philosophy had not emerged, by now many streets of the South would, I am convinced,be flowing with blood. And I am further convinced that if our white brothers dismiss as”rabblerousers” and “outside agitators” those of us who employ nonviolent direct action, and ifthey refuse tosupport our nonviolent efforts, millions of Negroes will, out of frustration and despair,seek solace andsecurity in black nationalist ideologies–a development that would inevitably lead to afrighteningracial nightmare.

Oppressed people cannot remain oppressed forever. The yearning for freedom eventually manifests itself, and that is what has happened to the American Negro. Something within has reminded him of his birthright of freedom, and something without has reminded him that it can be gained. Consciously or unconsciously, he has been caught up by the Zeitgeist, and with his black brothers of Africa and his brown and yellow brothers of Asia, South America and the Caribbean, the United States Negro is moving with a sense of great urgency toward the promised land of  racial justice. If one recognizes this vital urge that has engulfed the Negro community, one should readily understand why public demonstrations are taking place. The Negro has many pent up resentments and latent frustrations, and he must release them. So let him march; let him make prayer pilgrimages to the city hall; let him go on freedom rides -and try to understand why he must do so. If his repressedemotions are not released in nonviolent ways, they will seek expression through violence;this is not a threat but a fact of history. So I have not said to my people: “Get rid of your discontent.” Rather, I have tried to say that this normal and healthy discontent can be channeled into the creative outlet of nonviolent direct action. And now this approach is being termed extremist.But though I was initially disappointed at being categorized as an extremist, as I continued to think about the matter I gradually gained a measure of satisfaction from the label. Was not Jesus an extremist for love: “Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.” Was not Amos an extremist for justice:”Let justice roll down like waters and righteousness like an ever flowing stream.” Was not Paul an extremist for the Christian gospel: “I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.” Was not Martin Luther an extremist: “Here I stand; I cannot do otherwise, so help me God.” And John Bunyan: “I will stay in jail to the end of my days before I make a butchery of my conscience.” And Abraham Lincoln:”This nation cannot survive half slave and half free.” And Thomas Jefferson: “We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal . . .” So the question is not whether we will be extremists, but what kind of extremists we will be. Will we be extremists for hate or for love? Will we be extremists for the preservation of injustice or for the extension of justice? In that dramatic scene on Calvary’s hill three men were crucified. We must never forget that all three were crucified for the same crime–the crime of extremism. Two were extremists for immorality, and thus fell below their environment. The other, Jesus Christ, was an extremist for love, truth and goodness, and thereby rose above his environment. Perhaps the South, the nation and the world are in dire need of creative extremists.

I had hoped that the white moderate would see this need. Perhaps I was too optimistic;perhaps I expected too much. I suppose I should have realized that few members of the oppressor race can understand the deep groans and passionate yearnings of the oppressed race, and still fewer have the vision to see that injustice must be rooted out by strong, persistent and determined action. I am thankful, however, that some of our white brothers in the South have grasped the meaning of this social revolution and committed themselves to it. They are still all too few in quantity,but they are big in quality. Some -such as Ralph McGill, Lillian Smith, Harry Golden, James McBride Dabbs, Ann Bradenand,  Sarah Patton Boyle–have written about our struggle in eloquent and prophetic terms.Others have marched with us down nameless streets of the South. They have languished in filthy,roach infested jails, suffering the abuse and brutality of policemen who view them as “dirty nigger-lovers.”Unlike so many of their moderate brothers and sisters, they have recognized the urgency of the moment and sensed the need for powerful “action” antidotes to combat the disease of segregation.Let me take note of my other major disappointment. I have been so greatly disappointed with the white church and its leadership. Of course, there are some notable exceptions. I amnot unmindful of the fact that each of you has taken some significant stands on this issue. I commend you, Reverend Stallings, for your Christian stand on this past Sunday, in welcoming Negroes to your worship serviceon a nonsegregated basis. I commend the Catholic leaders of this state for integrating Spring Hill College several years ago.

But despite these notable exceptions, I must honestly reiterate that I have been disappointed with the church. I do not say this as one of those negative critics who can always find something wrong with the church. I say this as a minister of the gospel, who loves the church; whowas nurtured in its bosom; who has been sustained by its spiritual blessings and who will remain true to it as long as the cord of life shall lengthen.

When I was suddenly catapulted into the leadership of the bus protest in Montgomery, Alabama, a few years ago, I felt we would be supported by the white church. I felt that the white ministers, priests and rabbis of the South would be among our strongest allies. Instead,some have been outright opponents, refusing to understand the freedom movement and misrepresenting its leaders; all too many others have been more cautious than courageous and have remained silent behind the anesthetizing security of stained glass windows.

In spite of my shattered dreams, I came to Birmingham with the hope that the white religious leadership of this community would see the justice of our cause and, with deep moral concern, would serve as the channel through which our just grievances could reach the power structure. I had hoped that each of you would understand. But again I have been disappointed.

I have heard numerous southern religious leaders admonish their worshipers to comply with a desegregation decision because it is the law, but I have longed to hear white ministers declare:”Follow this decree because integration is morally right and because the Negro is your brother.” In the  midst of blatant injustices inflicted upon the Negro, I have watched white churchmen stand on the sideline and mouth pious irrelevancies and sanctimonious trivialities. In the midst of a mighty struggle to rid our nation of racial and economic injustice, I have heard many ministers say: “Those are social issues, with which the gospel has no real concern.” And I have watched many churches commit them selves to a completely other worldly religion which makes a strange, un-Biblical distinction between body and soul, between the sacred and the secular.

I have traveled the length and breadth of Alabama, Mississippi and all the other southern states. On sweltering summer days and crisp autumn mornings I have looked at the South’s beautiful churches with their lofty spires pointing heavenward. I have beheld the impressiveoutlines of her massive religious education buildings. Over and over I have found myself asking: “What kind of people worship here? Who is their God? Where were their voices when the lips of Governor Barnett dripped with words of interposition and nullification? Where were they when Governor Wallace gave a clarion call for defiance and hatred? Where were their voices of support when bruised and weary Negro men and women decided to rise from the dark dungeons of complacency to the bright hills of creative protest?”

Yes, these questions are still in my mind. In deep disappointment I have wept over the laxity of the church. But be assured that my tears have been tears of love. There can be no deep disappointment where there is not deep love. Yes, I love the church. How could I do otherwise? I am in the rather unique position of being the son, the grandson and the great grandson of preachers. Yes, I see the church as the body of Christ. But, oh! How we have blemished and scarred that body through social neglect and through fear of being nonconformists.

There was a time when the church was very powerful–in the time when the early Christians rejoiced at being deemed worthy to suffer for what they believed. In those days the church was not merely a thermometer that recorded the ideas and principles of popular opinion; it was at her most at that transformed the mores of society. Whenever the early Christians entered a town, the people in power became disturbed and immediately sought to convict the Christians for being”disturbers of the peace” and “outside agitators.”‘ But the Christians pressed on, in the conviction that they were “a colony of heaven,” called to obey God rather than man. Small in number, they were big in commitment. They were too God-intoxicated to be “astronomically intimidated.” By their effort and example they brought an end to such ancient evils as infanticide and gladiatorial contests.Things are different now. So often the contemporary church is a weak, ineffectual voice with an uncertain sound. So often it is an arch defender of the status quo. Far from being disturbed by the presence of the church, the power structure of the average community is consoled by the church’s silent–and often even vocal–sanction of things as they are.

But the judgment of God is upon the church as never before. If today’s church does not recapture the sacrificial spirit of the early church, it will lose its authenticity, forfeit the loyalty of millions, and be dismissed as an irrelevant social club with no meaning for the twentieth century. Every day I meet young people whose disappointment with the church has turned into outright disgust.

Perhaps I have once again been too optimistic. Is organized religion too inextricably bound to the status quo to save our nation and the world?  Perhaps I must turn my faith to the inner spiritual church, the church within the church, as the true ekklesia and the hope of the world. Butagain I amthankful to God that some noble souls from the ranks of organized religion have broken loose from the paralyzing chains of conformity and joined us as active partners in the struggle for freedom. They have left their secure congregations and walked the streets of Albany, Georgia, with us.They have gone down the highways of the South on tortuous rides for freedom. Yes, they have gone tojail withus. Some have been dismissed from their churches, have lost the support of their bishops and fellow ministers. But they have acted in the faith that right defeated is stronger than evil triumphant. Their witness has been the spiritual salt that has preserved the true meaning of the gospel in these troubled times. They have carved a tunnel of hope through the dark mountain of disappointment.  I hope the church as a whole will meet the challenge of this decisive hour. But even if the church does not come to the aid of justice, I have no despair about the future. I have no fear about the outcome of our struggle in Birmingham, even if our motives are at present misunderstood.We will reach the goal of freedom in Birmingham and all over the nation, because the goal of America is freedom. Abused and scorned though we may be, our destiny is tied up with America’s destiny. Before the pilgrims landed at Plymouth, we were here. Before the pen of Jefferson etched the majestic words of the Declaration of Independence across the pages of history, we were here. For more than two centuries our forebears labored in this country without wages; they made cotton king; they built the homes of their masters while suffering gross injustice and shameful humiliation -and yet out of a bottomless vitality they continued to thrive and develop. If the inexpressible crueltiesof slavery could not stop us, the opposition we now face will surely fail. We will win our freedom because the sacred heritage of our nation and the eternal will of God are embodied in our echoing demands. Before closing I feel impelled to mention one other point in your statement that has troubled me profoundly. You warmly commended the Birmingham police force for keeping “order” and”preventing violence.” I doubt that you would have so warmly commended the police force if you had seen its dogs sinking their teeth into unarmed, nonviolent Negroes. I doubt that you would so quickly commend the policemen if you were to observe their ugly and inhumane treatment of Negroes here in the city jail; if you were to watch them push and curse old Negro women and young Negro girls; if you were to see them slap and kick old Negro men and young boys; if you were to observe them, as they did on two occasions, refuse to give us food because we wanted to sing our grace together. I cannot join you in your praise of the Birmingham police department.

It is true that the police have exercised a degree of discipline in handling the demonstrators. In this sense they have conducted themselves rather “nonviolently” in public. But for what purpose? To preserve the evil system of segregation. Over the past few years I have consistently preached that nonviolence demands that the means we use must be as pure as the ends we seek. I have tried to make clear that it is wrong to use immoral means to attain moral ends. But now I must affirm that it is just as wrong, or perhaps even more so, to use moral means to preserve immoral ends.  Perhaps Mr.Connor and his policemen have been rather nonviolent in public, as was Chief Pritchett in Albany,Georgia, but they have used the moral means of nonviolence to maintain the immoral end of racial injustice. As T. S. Eliot has said: “The last temptation is the greatest treason: To do the right deed for the wrong reason.”

I wish you had commended the Negro sit inners and demonstrators of Birmingham for their sublime courage, their willingness to suffer and their amazing discipline in the midst of great provocation. One day the South will recognize its real heroes. They will be the James Merediths, with the noble sense of purpose that enables them to face jeering and hostile mobs, and with the agonizing loneliness that characterizes the life of the pioneer. They will be old, oppressed, battered Negro women, symbolized in a seventy two year old woman in Montgomery, Alabama, who rose up with a sense of dignity and with her people decided not to ride segregated buses, and who responded with ungrammatical profundity to one who inquired about her weariness: “My feets is tired,but my soul is at rest.” They will be the young high school and college students, the young ministers of the gospel and a host of their elders, courageously and nonviolently sitting in at lunch counters and willingly going to jail for conscience’ sake. One day the South will know that when these disinherited children of God sat down at lunch counters, they were in reality standing up for what is best in the American dream and for the most sacred values in our Judaeo Christian heritage, thereby bringing our nation back to those great wells of democracy which were dug deep by the founding fathers in their formulation of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

Never before have I written so long a letter. I’m afraid it is much too long to take your precious time. I can assure you that it would have been much shorter if I had been writing from a comfortable desk, but what else can one do when he is alone in a narrow jail cell, other than write long letters,think long thoughts and pray long prayers?

If I have said anything in this letter that overstates the truth and indicates an unreasonable impatience, I beg you to forgive me. If I have said anything that understates the truth and indicates my having a patience that allows me to settle for anything less than brotherhood, I beg God to forgiveme.

I hope this letter finds you strong in the faith. I also hope that circumstances will soon make it possible for me to meet each of you, not as an integrationist or a civil-rights leader but as a fellow clergyman and a Christian brother. Let us all hope that the dark clouds of racial prejudice will soon pass away and the deep fog of misunderstanding will be lifted from our fear drenched communities, and in some not too distant tomorrow the radiant stars of love and brotherhood will shine over our great nation with all their scintillating beauty.

Yours for the cause of Peace and Brotherhood, Martin Luther King, Jr.

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